On 10/2/07, Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 10/2/07, Rogelio Serrano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Well hibernation in linux as it is now is really too complicated.
> >
> > I would rather have a system based on pervasive snapshotting.
> >
> > > you know that would be a nice business app,  and a nice workflow.
> >
> > This exact behaviour was built in a machine with 5 mhz and 128 kb ram in 
> > 1987.
>
>
> Ahh, hibernation.
>
> Something that is fairly commodity, and yet Linux can't get it right.
> QED. Incidentally one of the reasons I don't use Linux as my desktop
> anymore.
>

The acpi spec is braindead. Even rich programmers complain at the
restrictions of acquiring and using ACPI. Even M$ had a hard time
making it work. If we stick to current commodity hardware its easier
to find other ways to have really fast startups other than
hibernation.

Hell! ACPI tables are closed IP! How stupid! Why don't they stick to
making it easy to find the boot device? Only M$ has enough money to
access those tables!

We all have our reasons for liking a desktop. For me not using
overlapping windows is enough. My startup takes 30 to 45 seconds and
shutdown about 5 seconds. Thats fast enough for me. My editor is smart
enough to know where i left off and my browser can restore my web
sessions. and to top all that i can make it better. that beats windows
on all points for me.

> Pervasive snapshotting is a problem because most apps don't know how
> to recover from snapshot. So you're reduced to imaging the entire RAM
> to disk. That's slow, given that hard drives are slow.
>
> Hard disk has only gained a 2X speed increase in the last decade,
> while RAM has increased what, 10X? imaging a 2GB RAM image to disk
> takes about 20-30 seconds.

There are ways but the Linux Gods don't agree.

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