On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:42 PM, Cocoy Dayao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> i have questions.
>
> ooxml is now an iso standard and odf is the same? correct?
>

Incorrect... ODF is an Open Standard for Documents... OOXML is a Standard
for Documents (Guess what the missing word is)



> doesn't it mean therefore that OpenOffice, Google Docs, iWork and
> everybody else now can now parse Microsoft Office formats much better?
>

Not quite.. The OOXML spec is deliberately designed to be difficult to
implement unless you are a  big software company based in redmond. Actually,
there is still no existing implementation of OOXML in any platform



>
> That OO and the rest have no excuse anymore not to be able to render
> properly data from .doc, xls, .ppt to say their own native file formats?
>

Again, not quite.. the published specifications are incomplete. The legal
rights to use are unclear

>
> and if say I (or anybody else for that matter) would like to write an
> App that reads/writes MSOffice format... i can now do so without any
> problem or worry the big bad wolf from redmond would rain holy hell on
> my house because they've has "opened" the standard up. that the
> landscape is now fair game for every developer in the world.
>

Read more about the standard and you will see that the picture you described
is what MS wants the rest of the world to believe... The real picture is
very different from what you described above

>
> is this correct?


No...

By the way, Congratulations to Microsoft for destroying the reputation of
ISO as an organization, the standardization process, and the Philippine
Bureau of Standards as well. I think 80 million Filipinos deserve a much
more open and free document format than what ISO just approved.

Microsoft may have won this battle but the war is far from over....

:-)



>
> On Apr 2, 2008, at 7:26 PM, Prof. Rom Feria wrote:
>
> > Hay! I am wondering WHEN the local FOSS community will voice out about
> > the way the Philippines voted in favor of OOXML.
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 7:20 PM, Ciaran O'Riordan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> "How the Philippines Changed Its OOXML Vote from No to Yes"
> >> http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20080402003610230
> >>
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