hi all, sorry for the late response of this topic as I am still in business trip for the whole week and be back to boston this Saturday...
lumia is still the primary smartphone strategy and you will get all the benefits of Microsoft services... X is address to low end markets and make it as cheap as possible to make it affordable.. it uses android open source project but without the google cloud services and replace with Microsoft services... X provides the opportunity to introduce people to Skype, outlook.com and one drive... so when people start to migrate to lumia's full windows phone experience.. the transition would be easy... plus.. it introduce people to light version of lumia's aspirational design...tile-based user interface.. and experiences like HERE maps... with that lumia and X are complementing with each other... so there you have it folks.. X offers the best of 3 worlds.... nokia design and build quality... Microsoft cloud services... and adroid apps.. fooler. On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Paolo Falcone <[email protected]> wrote: > If you have to download an app for it, it's not deep enough like how the N97 > did it. > > Hindsight is 20/20, so they say. > > <rant begins> > > I still believe that it's not the OS that mattered for Nokia, but how they > executed their plan. That burning platform note was just a classic case of > "what not to do" when you're a CEO (bitching in public that your company's > product is bad would get any CEO fired in other firms!). That wholesale > abandonment of the migration plan from Symbian actually turned me off from > buying Nokia hardware - I was using an E71 back then, was planning back then > for a replacement, and using Android or iOS back then wasn't exactly > desirable due to the great loss of battery life (back then with Android > phones) or tethering (back then with the iPhone running iOS 2.0) or build > quality (back then with Android phones) or basic smartphone features (back > then with WP7 phones). It just doomed Nokia's then current line of products > to have no future. > > It's too late now, but there might've been a chance with WP had Stephen Elop > negotiated more concessions for WP to ease the migration from Symbian > (abandoning Qt wholesale, despite its technical shortcomings, didn't go well > with Nokia's third-party developers). Seems like they were stuck between a > rock and a hard place though (I still hold that going Android back then > would truly be "pissing in their pants for warmth in winter"... and Windows > Phone's development left so much to be desired that Nokia's execution still > seemed pissing in their pants too despite having a chance with > differentiation), so I can't speculate further. > > </rant ends> > > Having no access to the Google Play Store isn't exactly a negative. The > people who are targets for these devices aren't going to care for Google > services specifically - they'd just use these phones like how they've been > using their feature phones. Nokia's Android phones are no less real Android > than those Android phones that don't carry Google Play services as sold in > other markets like China or Russia. > > As for the lack of Android 4.4, said OS update was release 31 October 2013. > Baking the OS to hardware (especially embedded hardware) takes a lot of > time, more so if there have been a lot of customizations (given that Nokia > did work on it for about a year). I still have gripes on stock AOSP's UX (it > is daunting if you're coming from a feature phone... which is the target > profile of users) and awesomely shitty power-saving configurations. > > > On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:01 AM, andrelst <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Hi Paolo, >> For android SIP integration, I used the open source csiplimple from google >> play store. Integrates on the native dialer on my Note3, and let's me select >> sip or mobile phone number. >> >> OP, >> MY opinion. This has been discussed almost 3 years ago on PLUG, and only >> if Nokia listened to us by bringing a REAL Android faster, they would have a >> fighting chance on the smartphone market! ;) >> >> A bit dismayed by the android lineups of Nokia though. Based on AOSP >> (Good) but no Google Play store (bad). But if you are a techie, since its >> AOSP, you can in theory sideload the apps (apk) via say, aptoide android >> market. >> >> They are using android 4.1, would have been better if they use 4.4 kitkat, >> as it uses less memory since the low end ones have only 512MB of memory. And >> i speculate Nokia started in 2012 for this since android 4.1 was released at >> that same time as well. >> >> Low end hardware specs to match the price. Not too bad on the pricepoint >> part. >> >> To make this hardware really fly, custom ROMs like cyanogenmod for this in >> the future. >> >> >> regards, >> Andre | http://www.varon.ca >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:00 AM, Paolo Falcone <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> If they implemented deep Skype integration (like or even better the N97, >>> ), that will be one big F**** **U to the carriers. >>> >>> Another gripe with Android: SIP integration is way buried in the dialer >>> settings. I kinda miss Symbian's direct SIP settings (though a bit >>> complicated at times, but it's natively a first-class citizen). >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:45 PM, Rogelio Serrano >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I am very pleased ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.businessinsider.com/nokia-android-phone-nokia-x-2014-2?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+typepad%2Falleyinsider%2Fsilicon_alley_insider+%28Silicon+Alley+Insider%29 >>>> _________________________________________________ >>>> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >>>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >>>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Paolo Alexis Falcone >>> [email protected] >>> Mobile: +639253005321 >>> Mobile: +639178054702 >>> >>> _________________________________________________ >>> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >>> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >>> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph >> >> >> >> _________________________________________________ >> Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List >> http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug >> Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph > > > > > -- > Paolo Alexis Falcone > [email protected] > Mobile: +639253005321 > Mobile: +639178054702 > > _________________________________________________ > Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List > http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug > Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph _________________________________________________ Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List http://lists.linux.org.ph/mailman/listinfo/plug Searchable Archives: http://archives.free.net.ph
