On Wed, 2009-04-22 at 12:11 -0700, m0gely wrote:
> Michael Robinson wrote:
> >>> The government could step in... <snip>
> > 
> > I've heard this argument before and I'm not buying it.  The government
> > which recognizes copyright could step in and retroactively change the
> > rules.
> 
> You don't buy it? What planet are you from? Wanna know a big reason why 
> nvidia drivers aren't open sourced? Ask SGI. These things simply are. 
> Your reaction is like a kid plugging his ears yelling "LALALALA can't 
> hear you! Give me a cookie!" You can't have the government going around 
> retro activating laws which affect billions (trillions?) of dollars of 
> industry over the last several decades to satisfy the one guy on the 
> planets' infatuation with running old Windows games in WINE or on the 
> ever-so-popular-please-kill-me-know ReactOS.

This comment is hilarious.  First off, WINE is popular with more 
people than ReactOS is.  Second off, there is more to think about
than just games.  Third off, if ReactOS remains behind the latest
version of Windows in software and driver support, it will create 
a problem of sorts.

This problem is somewhat lessened when free alternatives are
created, but Freecraft is a good example of what doesn't work.
How about Autocad and programs like it from the dos era that
are very useful, are there any free alternatives that are 
comparable?  If the only answer to dealing with the problems
of copyright is OSS, how do you pay talented programmers 
enough money to get them to develop open source GPL'ed 
software?  IBM wanted Postfix and that's a unique example 
of a paid for open source program, but can that be 
replicated over and over again?

As far as the trillions of dollars argument goes, I strongly 
disagree.  That is a number pulled out of thin air.  I'm not 
saying do away with all copyrights.  I'm simply saying, put 
a 1 decade time limit on software copyrights.  If you can't 
make a profit on a copyrighted piece of software in 10 years 
time, it's not a very worthwhile piece of software.  The 50 
years idea is ludicrous.  Copyrighting something beyond the 
lifetime of it's author and/or the owning company is also 
ludicrous.  The trouble is, the current copyright regime in
the U.S. and around the world creates permanent monopolies.

Question, why hate ReactOS?  ReactOS is simply an attempt 
to make an open source Windows NT compatible operating system.
Can you prove that it's better to just develop WINE further?
Do you know how to get more software producing companies to
write for Linux?  If the software, like Rick Rocket for
example, is proprietary, does it really make any difference
that it's written for Linux instead of Windows?  Seems to
me that any copyrighted software creates major headaches
for the public.

I'm not just one person who is interested in old games and
other old programs.  Many people are interested in old 
software of various types.  New computers may be cheaper
than they have been historically, but they are still 
expensive and not everyone wants to put up with the latest
DRM and other crap in Vista.  For all the time Vista has
been out, a lot of people are either sticking with XP or 
going to Ubuntu.

If the retroactive part would be too much, I don't think it
would be, non retroactive reforms could be pursued.  Windows
Vista if a 1 decade time limit were imposed today would still
be copyrighted.  Windows XP which came out in 2002 would still
be copyrighted.  Windows 2000 would still be copyrighted.  
However,  all versions of Windows prior to Windows 2000 would
not be copyrighted.  Microsoft could still sell Vista and in
the not too distant future Windows 7, though they might have
to compete with older versions of Windows which someone else
could pick up and develop.  There is supposed to be some
competition.  For the majority of software programs today,
you simply have to run either Mac OS X or Windows XP/Vista.
There are a lot of programs for Linux, but few programs
are designed for Linux relatively speaking.  Go to the local
convenience store, where is the Linux software?  Where is the
Linux compatible hardware?  A lot of hardware will work with
Linux, but my I/OMAGIC USB2 DVD Writer for example doesn't.

Saying that people who are interested in old software that is
not freeware are pirates is harsh.  Built in obsolence is a
nasty and cruel practice.  It creates a lot of junk as people
go out and buy new computers every 3-5 years.  A software pirate
to me is someone who goes after a program that a company is 
still making money on and tries to sell copies of it without 
paying for them.  There is some evidence that software piracy
makes the author of the software more money in the long run
if the price for a legal copy is reasonable.

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