Michael:

This is off topic.

For being a God fearing man you are pretty negative. Cheer up lado!  As an
atheist I have to say:  live and be happy already!  and..who cares anyway?
So what if it's down...do some studying. Get a coffee.. Work on your goals.
/shrug

Moving along. :D

Aaron

aa...@kalosaurusrex:~$
Discere docendo - To learn through teaching.
Libera Te Tutemet - You, free yourself.




On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 22:26, Michael Robinson <[email protected]>wrote:

> > I've had to have this discussion with people who've never managed,
> > administered or troubleshot an enterprise network. This seems like this
> is
> > the case with you Michael. It is not a complete apples to apples
> comparison
> > but the ideas still work. Automobiles have been around for some 100
> years,
> > there have been plenty of advancements and innovations, yet they still
> > require regular maintenance in order to run efficiently and not break
> down.
> > If you apply your logic to autos, they should never break down and never
> > require any upkeep whatsoever and they should never have any type of
> recalls
> > or something found after they are brought to market that was missed
> during
> > the engineering and prototyping phase. In reality, it just doesn't work
> like
> > that.
> >
> > Maybe you have an axe to grind with some of the professors, so be it, but
> > that shouldn't become a blanket judgement about the intelligence of the
> IT
> > staff at PSU.
> >
> > Drew-
>
> I never said that servers never break down.  Misdesign though
> which leads to an outage that leads to another service outage
> to fix the problem suggests a competence problem.  Automobiles
> don't break down as often as they did say 100 years ago.  The
> reliability is much better.  A qualified electrician should be
> able to design the electrical system for a building so that
> servers can be set up properly.  Furthermore, when you are
> serving 1000s of people you need to think about or have
> secondary facilities.  With all the construction going on at
> PSU, there should be a secondary site for network services.
> As far as an ax to grind, if I were unprofessional and had an
> ax to grind I'd put their names in my posts.  Yes I have
> noticed that certain professors at PSU probably shouldn't
> be there.  Insofar as this affects the computer science program,
> it is indirectly a Linux issue.  Linux is an operating system
> that is maintained by people who understand computers.  If
> PSU isn't turning out educated engineers, that is not good for
> Linux.  This problem with the design of the electrical system
> should have been spotted and addressed a long time ago.
>
> Concerning judgements, I have to make judgements because the
> competence or lack thereof of the IT staff at PSU affects me.
> I am in a computer intensive major.  If I were an English
> major, maybe I would not care so much.
>
> Why are all of PSU's network services including access to the
> Linux lab going to be affected?  Why is this outage going to
> occur now instead of 4 months ago in the summer when most
> students were gone?  I have some real difficulty understanding
> the planning.
>
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