On Tue, Dec 1, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Mike Connors <[email protected]> wrote:
> Denis Heidtmann wrote:
>> Related to my long dialog about ntpdate, I found two types of entries in 
>> syslog:
>> Those caused by a script related to if_up:
>> Dec  1 10:30:05 R2D4 ntpdate[3316]: step time server 74.207.251.121
>> offset 0.407052 sec
>>
>> And those of an unknown cause:
>> Dec  1 12:00:21 R2D4 ntpdate[6823]: step-systime: Operation not permitted
>>
>> The first type is the default invocation in ubuntu. It invariably
>> reports an offset of in the order of .5 seconds.  Yet when I run the
>> command from a terminal the offset is near zero.  This seems strange.
>> One possibility is that ubuntu does not set the hardware clock to the
>> system clock on exit.  How can I explore this?
>>
>> About the second type,  I am trying to find what precipitates it.
>> What does it mean?  I have searched for files in /etc containing the
>> text ntpdate, but have come up with nothing which seems to execute
>> ntpdate except /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate.  I thought that the noon
>> time was significant, but an identical entry appeared at around 1829.
>>
>> Ideas on how to crack this nut?

 >From my research, the 2nd entry can be caused by 1 of 2 things.
Either another ntp daemon is running when ntpdate attempts to step the
> system time. See below:
>
> ntpdate will decline to set the date if an NTP server daemon (e.g., ntpd) is 
> running on the same host.
>
> Or if you're using ntpdate on a virtual server.

ntpd is not installed. I searched in synaptic and found nothing
installed save ntpdate and ntpdate-debian containing the letters ntp.
Besides, doesn't the 2nd type log entry mean that the executable
ntpdate was launched? By what? A virtual server?  I have to confess I
have no idea what this means.  I do have VirtualBox, but not running.
I assume you mean something more esoteric that VB.

BTW, the time offset in the log this AM is near 1 second.  So my idea
that the kernel is not setting the hardware clock on shutdown is
looking more plausible.

-Denis
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