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>    1. ANNOUNCEMENT: May PLUG Meeting (David Mandel)
>    2. ANNOUNCEMENT: May PLUG AT Meeting (Michael Dexter)
>    3. Re: KDE apps on Gnome (John Jason Jordan)
>    4. Re: KDE apps on Gnome (Rich Shepard)
>    5. Re: Ubuntu 10.04 Install Problems (Richard C. Steffens)
>    6. Re: (fwd) Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released (John Jason Jordan)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 12:42:11 -0700
> From: David Mandel <[email protected]>
> Subject: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: May PLUG Meeting
> To: Portland Linux User Group Announcements
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> Cc: David Mandel <[email protected]>,   Geoff Burling
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> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?The Portland Linux/Unix Group
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?will meet
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?7 PM Thursday May 6, 2010
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?at
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Portland State University
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?in the
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Fariborz Maseeh
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ?College of Engineering & Computer Science Building
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Room FAB 86-01
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?(This is in the basement.)
> ? ? ? ? ? The building is on SW 4th across from SW College Street.
> ? ? ? ?See location H-10 on map at http://pdxLinux.org/campus_map.jpg
>
> ? ? *******************************************************************
>
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? PRESENTATION
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? How Linux Containers fit your cloud
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?by
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Alec Istomin
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?www.Parallels.com
>
> ? ? Linux, Cloud, Virtualization and hundreds other buzz words are out
> ? ? there to blow your mind. The session will share real life examples
> ? ? that actually make sense and deliver meaningful easy to use services to
> ? ? end users with minimum efforts from cloud administrators.
>
> ? ? A deeper introduction to Containers technology will be presented and
> ? ? will be helpful to anyone, especially for people familiar with any
> ? ? other virtualization solution for Linux.
>
> ? ? Overview of Parallels Commercial management tools for Containers and
> ? ? clouds with open command line and XML APIs will show how to put an
> ? ? infrastructure cloud solution to life.
>
> ? ? About the speaker:
> ? ? Alec Istomin is an Enterprise Solution Architect at Parallels,
> ? ? Renton,WA and originally joined the company (called SWsoft at
> ? ? the time) as a developer in early 2000. He has been involved
> ? ? with Linux and Virtualization all these years and led numerous
> ? ? cloud deployments. He has an M.S. in physics and applied
> ? ? mathematics from Moscow Institute of Physics and Technology
> ? ? (MIPT), Moscow.
>
> ? ? *******************************************************************
>
> ? ? ? ? Agenda:
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? 7:00 - 7:30 ?Business
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?We will discuss the status of our ongoing projects
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?including PLUG's monthly Advanced Topics meetings,
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?PLUG's monthly hands on clinics, PLUG for Education,
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?etc.
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? 7:30 - 8:30 ?Presentation
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?See above
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? 9:00 - ... ?Beer
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? The Lucky Lab Northwest Beerhall
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 1945 NW Quimby
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Portland, Oregon
>
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? David Mandel
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Chief Activist
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Portland Linux/Unix Group
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 560 SE Alexander
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Corvallis, Oregon 97333
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? (541) 730-5285 mobile
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? dmandel at pdxLinux.org
>
> ? ? ? ? P.S. ?The Mid Willamette Valley Linux Users Group meets
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? every month.
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? See http://www.lug.corvallis.or.us/ for details.
>
> ? ? ? ? P.S. ?The Eugene Linux Users Group meets several times a month.
> ? ? ? ? ? ? ? See http://www.euglug.org for details.
>
> ======================================================================
> David Mandel ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?http://www.DavidMandel.com
> Portland Linux/Unix Group ? ? ? ? ? http://pdxLinux.org
> LinuxFund ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://LinuxFund.org
> ======================================================================
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 14:05:36 -0700
> From: Michael Dexter <[email protected]>
> Subject: [PLUG] ANNOUNCEMENT: May PLUG AT Meeting
> To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;  civil and on-topic"
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>                             MEETING ANNOUNCEMENT
>
>                        The Portland Linux/Unix Group
>                                  will meet
>                        7 PM Wednesday May 19th, 2010
>                                      at
>                             Roots Organic Brewery
>                                    in the
>                   Big room behind the "Employees Only" sign
>
>     1520 Southeast 7th Avenue - Just South of Hawthorne - (503) 235-7668
>
>     ********************************************************************
>
>
>                                 PRESENTATION
>
>                          DRBD and Pacemaker part II
>
>                                      by
>
>                                Adam Gandelman
>                                www.linbit.com
>
> DRBD stands for Distributed Replicated Block Device.  Mainline since
> 2.6.33, it is used to replicate data at the block level over the network
> in a "network RAID1" fashion.   It is generally deployed as a cost
> effective, shared-nothing alternative to a SAN and used as the building
> block for high availability clusters. Pacemaker is currently the de
> facto open-source cluster resource manager (CRM) for Linux HA
> clustering.   With it, nodes and services can be monitored and managed
> to ensure maximum uptime in the face of the most severe service and
> hardware level failures.  Combining the two allows admins to %99.999
> uptime at a fraction of the price of proprietary alternatives.
>
> In LINBIT's second PLUG Advance Topics installment, Adam Gandelman will
> give a more in-depth view of DRBD and Pacemaker and demonstrate how they
> work closely together to keep applications running and consistent.
> During the second half of the presentation, Adam will provide attendees
> with a real-world example by configuring a highly-available LAMP cluster
> from the ground up. Though geared toward web services, the concepts
> presented can easily be expanded to provide the HA gaurantee to
> virtually any Linux service.
>
> Agenda: - Brief re-introduction to DRBD, Pacemaker and HA clustering
> concepts. - Overview of various use cases and interesting deployments -
> Configuration and implementation of a highly-available LAMP cluster
> using DRBD for data redundancy and Pacemaker for resource management.
>
> Adam Gandelman is an expert in open-source clustering and high
> availability. Originally from New England, Adam lives in Portland, OR
> where he has been working at LINBIT, developers of DRBD and maintainers
> of Heartbeat. Aside from providing top-level Linux High-Availability and
> Disaster Recovery consulting for customers in the Americas, he leads
> LINBIT training courses in the US, doubles as a technical writer and
> regularly contributes to related open-source projects.
>
>                     A projector has been arranged!
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:44:29 -0700
> From: John Jason Jordan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] KDE apps on Gnome
> To: [email protected]
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> On Mon, 03 May 2010 09:18:16 -0700
> m0gely <[email protected]> dijo:
>
>>John Jason Jordan wrote:
>>
>>> Ktorrent is what I plan to replace
>>> Vuze with, so that won't do.
>>
>>Tried Deluge? Sorry for hijack.
>
> Yes. It's OK, but I prefer Ktorrent. Actually I liked Vuze too, perhaps
> even better than Ktorrent. I just can't handle the hourly crashes. I
> want to leave it running overnight.
>
> I used to use Ktorrent on Ubuntu, but it had a serious bug that caused
> it to spawn multiple copies of some KDE application, until eventually
> it used all my 4 GB of RAM. So when I moved from Ubuntu to Fedora I
> decided to try something else. I had tried Azureus several times in the
> past, but usually couldn't even get it installed. On Fedora it
> installed easily and I liked its features. But Ktorrent is almost as
> featureful, and it's rock solid.
>
> Vuze is a Java application. Now, I know someone is going to clobber me
> for saying this, but I have yet to find a Java application that doesn't
> crash or have other major bugs. My theory is that Java itself may be
> fine, but it attracts inexperienced programmers. The result is an
> application that is a mess. My theory should be considered a WAG
> though, because I know so little about programming I wouldn't even try
> more than a simple bash script, let alone Java.
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 17:59:20 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Rich Shepard <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] KDE apps on Gnome
> To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;  civil and on-topic"
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> On Mon, 3 May 2010, John Jason Jordan wrote:
>
>> Now, I know someone is going to clobber me for saying this, but I have yet
>> to find a Java application that doesn't crash or have other major bugs.
>
>    Take a look at jgnuash, a personal finance application. Installs
> everywhere (including where Gnucash won't) and runs like the Energizer
> bunny. Never had it crash and there are no identified bugs reported on the
> mail list.
>
>> My theory is that Java itself may be fine, but it attracts inexperienced
>> programmers.
>
>    You're probably thinking of PHP and Visual Basic. If you want to see a
> huge, complex, well-functioning java application take a look at Eclipse
> <http://www.eclipse.org/>. Originally developed by IBM it's become a
> broadly-used development platform.
>
> Rich
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 03 May 2010 18:13:38 -0700
> From: "Richard C. Steffens" <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Ubuntu 10.04 Install Problems
> To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help;  civil and on-topic"
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> Jason Barnett wrote:
>> When you boot from the CD, after you select your language, there is an
>> option to check the media for errors.  This is what you want to use.
>>
>
> Just did that. And also ran md5sum against the iso (I know, I should
> have done that before I burned the CD. The md5sum matched the published
> one. Both were successful.
>
>> If the media checks fine, then I would try the install again.  I have seen
>> weirder things happen.  Doing a fsck on your drive probably wouldn't be a
>> bad idea either.
>>
>
> I thought I'd be able to run fsck from the live CD, but it wants me to
> log in. I haven't seen anything anywhere to use as the user name and
> password. I tried guest with no password, ubuntu with no password, and
> the username I used when I installed 10.04 on that machine. None of them
> work.
>
> Does someone know which doormat to lift up to find the key?
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Dick Steffens
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 3 May 2010 18:25:49 -0700
> From: John Jason Jordan <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] (fwd) Ubuntu 10.04 LTS released
> To: [email protected]
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> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 19:02:21 -0700
> John Jason Jordan <[email protected]> dijo:
>
>>I will continue seeding for a couple of days. Since I am local I should
>>be able to feed pretty quickly in case someone wants to torrent one of
>>the new Ubuntus.
>
> Many have commented that osu.osl and other servers are faster after the
> initial few hours after a major release like Lucid.
>
> That is probably true. But I am still seeding. Interestingly, over the
> past couple of days I have uploaded zero of the alternative and desktop
> versions. However, the take for Edubuntu has been heavy, and almost as
> heavy for Mythbuntu, especially the 32-bit versions. The 32-bit netbook
> version is also popular. And overall the download rate for 32-bit is
> about three times the rate for the 64-bit versions.
>
> More interesting is watching who I am feeding. This morning I noticed
> someone from India downloading Edubuntu 32-bit. They had 32%, and now
> at 6 pm they are up to 48%. I see a great many from the less developed
> parts of the world, usually downloading slowly. I have lived in such
> countries. Dial-up is usually all that is available, and the phone
> system hangs up a lot. A good thing about torrents is that if you lose
> your connection it can be restarted without issue.
>
> Osu.osl and cat.pdx.edu are great for us. But I'll continue seeding for
> the benefit of those with less fortunate technology. It's a tiny thing,
> but I think that doing a favor for people in other countries makes them
> respect us more than throwing bombs at them. Besides, the cost to me is
> zero.
>
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