The Clinic is hosted on the third Sunday of each month from 1pm-5pm. -wes
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Bob Staser <[email protected]> wrote: > Will there be another clinic hosted by PLUG in the near future? > I have an LXE vehicle mount terminal that I'd like some help with. > I kinda threw out my back on Friday, and it's heavy enough that I' don't > really want to lift it today. > I looked at the Free Geek calendar, and they don't list today's clinic, or > any others. > > Sorry if this is the wrong forum or format for my question, I'm new here. > > Thanks! > > Bob Staser > [email protected] > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > [email protected] > Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:00 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: PLUG Digest, Vol 81, Issue 25 > > Send PLUG mailing list submissions to > [email protected] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [email protected] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [email protected] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than > "Re: Contents of PLUG digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Clinic! (Jeffery Mathis) > 2. Re: Clinic! (John Jason Jordan) > 3. Re: USB Serial Port Adapters (Fred James) > 4. Re: USB Serial Port Adapters (Jason Barnett) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:00:44 -0700 > From: Jeffery Mathis <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Clinic! > To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help, civil and on-topic" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > I would be interested in helping out. > On Jun 17, 2011 4:05 PM, "John Jason Jordan" <[email protected]> wrote: > > Yes, it's this Sunday, June 19! > > > > Do you have a Linux computer that's being a brat? Bring it to the > > Clinic! > > > > Do you have a computer you'd like to install Linux on but need some > > hand-holding? Bring it to the Clinic! > > > > We have meece, keyboards and monitors, so if it's a desktop all you > > need to bring is the box. We also have the latest versions of all > > major distros. And we'll even have coffee and munchables. > > > > And if you know Linux and would like to help people with their Linux > > problems, we need you too. In fact, we may be short on experts this > > time, so your appearance would be welcome. > > > > Where? > > > > Free Geek, 1741 SE 10th Avenue, Portland 97214. > > > > When? > > > > 1 to 5 pm, Sunday, June 19, 2011. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PLUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:18:30 -0700 > From: John Jason Jordan <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] Clinic! > To: [email protected] > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII > > On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 20:00:44 -0700 > Jeffery Mathis <[email protected]> dijo: > > >I would be interested in helping out. > > Terrific! > > No applications or approvals are required. Just show up. > > Hope to see you there! > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:45:58 -0500 > From: Fred James <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB Serial Port Adapters > To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help; civil and on-topic" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Jackman wrote: > > Why can't udev rules be applied here? > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Fred James <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > >> Tim Wescott wrote: > >> > >>> (omissions for brevity) > >>> I did an experiment: I started with my Fax modem and the board I'm > >>> developing plugged in. I did ls /dev/ttyU*. > >>> Then I unplugged the development board and did ls again. Then I > >>> plugged in a debugger that has its own USB serial port adapter, and > >>> did ls again. Here's my results: > >>> > >>> tim@servo:~$ ls /dev/ttyU* > >>> /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyUSB1 > >>> tim@servo:~$ ls /dev/ttyU* > >>> /dev/ttyUSB0 > >>> tim@servo:~$ ls /dev/ttyU* > >>> /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyUSB1 > >>> > >>> What _did_ happen is that at different times the same device -- > >>> ttyUSB1 > >>> -- got mapped to different physical devices. That is what I _do > >>> not_ want to happen. What I want to happen is to plug in the > >>> development board and have /dev/ttyUSBdevelop appear, and to plug in > >>> the debugger and have /dev/ttyUSBdebug appear (or some similar > me-defined mapping). > >>> Different devices. Different, _unique_, identifiers. > >>> > >>> Otherwise, every time I plug a bunch of stuff in to the machine, I'm > >>> going to have to do a bunch of hand work to figure out what ports > >>> map to what devices at the moment. > >>> > >>> > >> Tim Wescott > >> Thought 1: If you can use CLI (command line interface) to determine > >> what you need to know, then a (BASH) script can be written to do that. > >> Thought 2: If a device can be identified (example: ttyUSB1 is the > >> debugger), then it can be mounted to a directory (example: > >> ~/debugger) Thought 3: If 1 and if 2, then the two can be written > together in a script. > >> Does any of that help? > >> Regards > >> Fred James > >> > Jackman > According to <http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#about>, it > can > ... > " > > udev rules are flexible and very powerful. Here are some of the things you > can use rules to achieve: > > * Rename a device node from the default name to something else > * Provide an alternative/persistent name for a device node by > creating a symbolic link to the default device node > * Name a device node based on the output of a program > * Change permissions and ownership of a device node > * Launch a script when a device node is created or deleted > (typically when a device is attached or unplugged) > * Rename network interfaces > > " > Regards > Fred James > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 09:49:01 -0700 > From: Jason Barnett <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [PLUG] USB Serial Port Adapters > To: "General Linux/UNIX discussion and help, civil and on-topic" > <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > Here is a link that gives an example of this exact situation. The example > shows using a FTDI chip and having the UDEV rule compare against the serial > number of the device so it should work for specific devices. > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Bus_pirate > > Jason > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:45 PM, Fred James > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Jackman wrote: > > > Why can't udev rules be applied here? > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 6:48 PM, Fred James > > > <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > >> Tim Wescott wrote: > > >> > > >>> (omissions for brevity) > > >>> I did an experiment: I started with my Fax modem and the board > > >>> I'm developing plugged in. I did ls /dev/ttyU*. > > >>> Then I unplugged the development board and did ls again. Then I > > plugged > > >>> in a debugger that has its own USB serial port adapter, and did ls > > >>> again. Here's my results: > > >>> > > >>> tim@servo:~$ ls /dev/ttyU* > > >>> /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyUSB1 > > >>> tim@servo:~$ ls /dev/ttyU* > > >>> /dev/ttyUSB0 > > >>> tim@servo:~$ ls /dev/ttyU* > > >>> /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/ttyUSB1 > > >>> > > >>> What _did_ happen is that at different times the same device -- > > >>> ttyUSB1 > > >>> -- got mapped to different physical devices. That is what I _do > > >>> not_ want to happen. What I want to happen is to plug in the > > >>> development board and have /dev/ttyUSBdevelop appear, and to plug > > >>> in the debugger and have /dev/ttyUSBdebug appear (or some similar > me-defined mapping). > > >>> Different devices. Different, _unique_, identifiers. > > >>> > > >>> Otherwise, every time I plug a bunch of stuff in to the machine, > > >>> I'm going to have to do a bunch of hand work to figure out what > > >>> ports map > > to > > >>> what devices at the moment. > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Tim Wescott > > >> Thought 1: If you can use CLI (command line interface) to > > >> determine what you need to know, then a (BASH) script can be written > to > do that. > > >> Thought 2: If a device can be identified (example: ttyUSB1 is the > > >> debugger), then it can be mounted to a directory (example: > > >> ~/debugger) Thought 3: If 1 and if 2, then the two can be written > > >> together in a > > script. > > >> Does any of that help? > > >> Regards > > >> Fred James > > >> > > Jackman > > According to <http://reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html#about>, > > it can ... > > " > > > > udev rules are flexible and very powerful. Here are some of the things > > you can use rules to achieve: > > > > * Rename a device node from the default name to something else > > * Provide an alternative/persistent name for a device node by > > creating a symbolic link to the default device node > > * Name a device node based on the output of a program > > * Change permissions and ownership of a device node > > * Launch a script when a device node is created or deleted > > (typically when a device is attached or unplugged) > > * Rename network interfaces > > > > " > > Regards > > Fred James > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PLUG mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > End of PLUG Digest, Vol 81, Issue 25 > ************************************ > > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
