On Tue, Apr 3, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Rich Shepard <[email protected]>wrote:

> On Tue, 3 Apr 2012, Mike Connors wrote:
>
> > I cannot get my eth0 to go in / out of the "running" state by running
> ifup
> > / ifdown, although it works with the loopback interface.
>
>    On Slackware, using 'ifconfig eth0 up|down' I can.
>
> > Also, two default routes on the same network and I have no problems.
>
>    Same here with all hosts other than this one Sony Vaio.
>
> > So if the only difference between your two laptops in terms of wireless,
> is
> > the radio and more importantly the driver. Which you had problems with
> > previously. I'm inclined to believe that driver is not functioning the
> way
> > it should be.
> >
> > It shouldn't be in a "running" state unless there is physical
> connectivity
> > and packets are flowing across the interface.
>
>    The eth0 interface is not RUNNING, but the routes are there and so is
> the
> constipation.
>
Actually you are wrong on this point.  As you stated earlier today, once
you 'ifconfig eth0 down' things worked.  If that was truely the case then
the interface was up but
without a carrier.  The routes would remain intact as the kernel doesn't
know when or if the network carrier will return.
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