On Thu, 4 Apr 2013, Michael Dexter wrote: >Everyone, may I suggest "Portland Linux/Unix Group" in place of "General >Linux/UNIX discussion and help (civil and on-topic)"?
On Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 08:21:00AM -0700, Rich Shepard wrote: > Since the flame wars of a decade or so ago have run out of fuel the > alternate tag you suggest is quite appropriate. No they haven't, you ... you ... you ... Slackware user! :-) Seriously, there's a troll born every minute. And if trolls want to post uncivil or off-topic stuff, it helps to point at the banner and suggest they mosey over to plug-talk, increasingly loudly if they are persistently clueless. Without the detailed banner, loudness (or explusion) will be harder to justify, and some regulars may get lazy, loading up the main list with stuff most subscribers don't want to read. The most recent flame war erupted two years ago, and some folks left the list because of it. They stopped leaving when we forced one person to leave. Think of the longer banner as a very short EULA. It helps cooperative newbies know where to post, and enlists their aid in policing the main list. We're geeks, we need algorithms, our social instincts are weak. This message itself is off-topic, time wasting chat, sorta, but the people concerned are subscribed here. This isn't a majority vote thing - if we drive away 30% of the subscribers with each change, we are soon down to a very short list. If nobody else objects to opening up this list to chatter, I'll reluctantly go along, and endeavor to withhold "you'll be sorry" and "I told you so" when/if unfortunate consequences ensue. Keith -- Keith Lofstrom [email protected] Voice (503)-520-1993 _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
