Keith I 200% feel the pain. It seems that Gnome, KDE et.al. have been infected by the same virus that engulfs all of Redmond Washington.
But I can't really say its origin is from within the halls of Microsoft. But I can say and believe it is predominantly a disease of American origin. Some where out of the raised factories of what we call Detroit only in that is was the epicenter of the American automobile industry Everyone was brainwashed to believe you had to have something new every year, be it an new car only because the amount of chrome went from 2 sq feet to 3 sq feet, or the holes in the side went from 3 to 4 etc etc. Ditto for appliances, radios, and TVs I Europe the consumer would ask very foreign questions like does the change make it easier to use or does it make it safer (Volvo) or does it last longer (Mercedes-Benz), or does it clean my clothes better ..... Why upgrade to Window 10 from Window 7 .. its new is the only reason, Why is Gnome 3 better, it has to be its is newer. -pete sigh .. wonder if one can get CDE for Linux ? On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 11:41 PM, Keith Lofstrom <[email protected]> wrote: > I've been to busy to fool with Gnome 3 for a while, but I'm > assembling my "I really HATE this, how do I fix it?" list. > > I do not appreciate strangers rearranging my desktop papers. > > When I first encountered Linux and Gnome, years ago, I fell > in love with virtual desktops and Gnome Original - I use 20 > virtuals, populated with many interlocking projects, and on > a 2048x1536 laptop screen it is like having a physical desk > 40 feet wide that I can navigate with a mouseclick. Wow. > > Gnome 3, Gnome Classic, and Cinnamon /all/ share the same > arrogant feature - "all your edges are belong to us". Move > the mouse to the upper left corner (where a full screen CAD > tool might be using the pixels) and bang, you are in the > desktop pager. Move an xterm to the top or the edge, and > it resizes across the screen. How do I turn that stupid > f***ing c**p OFF and get a simple, passive desktop again? > > MATE is Gnome 2 - I can live with their silly renaming of > all the apps. I suppose they had to avoid collisions when > the Gnome 3 wrecking crew plowed through the namespace. But > I worry that without the active support of the major distros > they will fail. I've already run into rendering problems on > the MATE login screen with one graphic chipset. My distro > of choice is stable, staid Red Hat Enterprise Linux, > Scientific Linux variant, and for some reason RHEL chose > Gnome 3 Classic as their principal offering. I expect > Red Hat's customers are NOT updating to RHEL7 in droves. > > I can live with new names, or some changes to the paradigm. > If I can make some incarnation of Gnome 3 leave the damned > edges alone, and do only what I tell it to with keyboard and > mouse clicks, I can relearn how to work, and live with it. > > Is this possible? Otherwise, will MATE get enough support > to endure for a decade or two? Or will I be stuck with > changing to M$Bob\\\\\Gnome 3 in the future, anyway? > > The head of the Gnome project recently asked me for help > with an unrelated issue, and it took all my self control > to remain silent and NOT RIP HIS F***ING HEAD OFF, never > mind helping. Even Miguel de Icaza, the originator of > Gnome, is using Mac OSX now. Does it take a cattle prod > to wake these zombies up? > > To summarize - commit to MATE, or try to repair Gnome 3? > > Keith > > -- > Keith Lofstrom [email protected] > _______________________________________________ > PLUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug > _______________________________________________ PLUG mailing list [email protected] http://lists.pdxlinux.org/mailman/listinfo/plug
