Hummm, this is interesting. I was speaking with Wes at the
last PLUG lab and I pointed out that I'd been on the internet
since 1986 when I was using Jughead (?) Gopher (?) and
pulling FTP files off of the web. And in many ways the web
was just as fast back then because we didn't have Flash, Java
etc. clogging the bandwith. As soon as I learn some command
line functions I may go exclusively to text based browsers to
circumvent these issues.

Blessings,

Paul W.

On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:17 AM, Russell Senior <[email protected]>
wrote:

> >>>>> "Bill" == Bill Barry <[email protected]> writes:
>
> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 9:04 AM, Galen Seitz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Galen> Here's fascinating blog post by Jim Gettys, one of the creators
> Galen> of the X Window System, and a Bell Labs employee.  In it he
> Galen> describes how the internet is being crippled by excessive
> Galen> buffering.
> Galen> https://gettys.wordpress.com/2010/12/06/whose-house-is-of-
> Galen> glasse-must-not-throw-stones-at-another/
>
> Galen> Here's the corresponding LWN article.
> Galen> http://lwn.net/Articles/418918/#Comments
>
> Bill> Some good work has been done since this article came out.  Version
> Bill> 15 of openwrt has available a couple of packages which implement a
> Bill> system called Smart Queue Management that does a good job of
> Bill> mitigating bufferbloat.  The packages are sqm-scripts and a
> Bill> corresponding luci-app-sqm.
>
> Bill> Here is a page about installing and tuning them.
> Bill> https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/sqm
>
> Bill> There is even a youtube video showing the installation procedure.
> Bill> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FvYhifdQ92Q
>
> CoDel (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoDel) has been the standard
> network scheduler in OpenWrt/LEDE for a few years.  It was introduced
> into OpenWrt in May 2012 and made fq_codel the default queue discipline
> in April 2013, at least in trunk (I don't use standard releases, so I'm
> not sure when those changed).  You should get it out-of-the-box for any
> release later than that.
>
> As a result (as well as improved behavior of client software), we
> generally don't see any problems with bittorrent at Personal Telco nodes
> anymore.  There was a time when I needed to intervene occasionally "to
> protect the network" from bad behavior (mostly upstream bandwidth
> saturation and queue filling), but I haven't needed to for so long I've
> almost forgotten how.  We do still discourage bittorrent on public
> networks, but I'm not sure it's really necessary anymore.
>
> Gettys was at a Community Wireless Summit I attended in Barcelona in
> 2012, and gave a talk about it.
>
>
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