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> Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2016 18:54:47 -0600
> From: Dan Herrington <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Scripts vs GUI
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> As someone who's career is built on automation, I agree with all of you :)
>
> A good GUI abstracts more than automates, but that is more pedantic.  
> Automation is for brain dead, repetitive tasks, as Keith pointed out, but a 
> good GUI, yeah, King Beowulf is right. A picture is worth a thousand words. 
> You can't get a status on the web server farm by reading through scripts.
>
> CLI allows you to build it and keep it working operationally, but the GUIs 
> allow you to manage the higher level complex tasks of assimilating and 
> showing information fast for decision making.
>
> As for SCP, yeah I'd script that.
>
>> On Dec 11, 2016, at 11:51 AM, Keith Lofstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
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>>> On 12/10/2016 10:15 PM, Keith Lofstrom wrote:
>>> ...
>>> The power of Unix/Linux is that shell scripts can automate
>>> what you do frequently.
>>> ...
>>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 01:21:21AM -0800, King Beowulf wrote:
>>> ...
>>> Often a properly designed GUI is quicker and more intuitive that trying
>>> to remember and track obscure CLI options stuffed into a script
>>> somewhere.
>>> ...
>> If you reread what I wrote, it is about making your
>> own SHELL SCRIPTS for frequently used tasks.  You
>> can connect to your scripts with the command line,
>> or you can add a desktop icon, or add an icon to
>> the Gnome/KDE menu.  CREATE and AUTOMATE.
>>
>> There are tools for capturing and automating mouse
>> clicks.  But your desktop icons can move around,
>> so that is very fragile.
>>
>> Rich mentions LyX for working with LaTeX, which I have
>> tried using.  Too inflexible, too much work to iterate
>> towards what I want, too subject to the changing whims
>> of GUI re-designers.  My documents are built out of
>> segments of other documents, dozens of interations,
>> often with other tools (like povray) making some of
>> the elements of the complete document.  Concatenating
>> documents with shell scripts is easier after iteration
>> two, and vital on a tight deadline.
>>
>> My dear wife uses the desktop and GUI far more than I
>> do;  the icons and documents are piled on top of each
>> other on her desktop, and she cannot find anything.
>> Her desktop has meeting minutes from two years ago,
>> but she can't use grep to locate what she worked on
>> last month.  With grep and text sources, I can find
>> meeting minutes from 20 years ago;  more specifically,
>> a document in a specific two week time window 20
>> years ago - on half a dozen machines, with different
>> distro versions.
>>
>> If I put that search in a script, with a few comments,
>> I can use it again in the future.  I can rewrite it to
>> look for another time window, without needing to
>> remember how to use rarely used grep options.  When I
>> have many such scripts, I can use grep to find them.
>>
>> Simple shell programming (with comments!) is an
>> investment in the future.  Some people "organize" their
>> information and tasks like they have no future.  They
>> work like blue collar assembly line workers, repeating
>> the same manual operations over and over until they get
>> old and they can't hold their hands steady any more.
>> Or programmers replace them with a robot.
>>
>> Keith
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> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 05:49:30 -0800
> From: Pete Lancashire <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] 4k displays with video card recommendations?
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> I am going to be in the same boat this spring when I put a new desktop
> together. He just got one of these
>
> http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27UD58-B-4k-uhd-led-monitor
>
> -pete
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> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 12:28 AM, Russell Senior <[email protected]>
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>> I have a very early i7 quadcore desktop box with a dual monitor setup.
>> However, it has some annoying features, not least being the bezels on
>> the two displays running down the middle.  I'm interested in getting a
>> single 4K display to replace them, maybe in the 30-36" diagonal range.
>> In addition, I'd need a suitable linux-friendly video card to drive it.
>>
>> Has anyone set up a 4K rig with recommendations on hardware?
>>
>> Thanks!
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> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2016 09:43:39 -0800
> From: Chuck Hast <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [PLUG] 4k displays with video card recommendations?
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> Oh, now I have to get one of those,  then get compiz to give me multiple
> cubes, one for each session on the big screen.
>
> On Dec 12, 2016 5:52 AM, "Pete Lancashire" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> I am going to be in the same boat this spring when I put a new desktop
>> together. He just got one of these
>>
>> http://www.lg.com/us/monitors/lg-27UD58-B-4k-uhd-led-monitor
>>
>> -pete
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 12:28 AM, Russell Senior <
>> [email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a very early i7 quadcore desktop box with a dual monitor setup.
>>> However, it has some annoying features, not least being the bezels on
>>> the two displays running down the middle.  I'm interested in getting a
>>> single 4K display to replace them, maybe in the 30-36" diagonal range.
>>> In addition, I'd need a suitable linux-friendly video card to drive it.
>>>
>>> Has anyone set up a 4K rig with recommendations on hardware?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Russell Senior, President
>>> [email protected]
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