Everyone,

  Thank You,
 I'll see about ordering a T570 next week...


Blessings,
Paul W.

On Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 1:45 PM, Bill Weiss <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Bill Weiss([email protected])@Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 06:12:25PM
> +0000:
> > Joe Shisei Niski([email protected])@Thu, Aug 24, 2017 at 09:51:48AM
> -0700:
> > >
> > > On 08/23/2017 07:16 PM, John Jason Jordan wrote:
> > > > On Wed, 23 Aug 2017 17:53:49 -0700
> > > > Vedanta Teacher <[email protected]> dijo:
> > > >
> > > >> I was thinking about replacing it with a Lenovo ThinkPad T570:
> > > > Thinkpads are famous for reliability and Linux compatibility. But you
> > > > should also check out the offerings from System76.
> > >      Many thumbs up to System76 for for nice turnkey Linux laptops,
> > > responsive pre-sale staff willing and ready to answer questions, and
> > > good service. I reccomend that if you go this route , do a little
> > > research onthe OEM of the system ad  - I've purchased Clevo  (also sold
> > > as Sager and Alienware) hardware from them and never had a problem. Not
> > > sure what they're selling these days.
> >
> > I cannot more strongly recommend against System76.
> >
> > At my previous company we used them for desktops and laptops for a few
> > years. After a number of bad hardware problems (example: three desktops
> in
> > a row had their power supplies catch fire. Not figuratively, actual smoke
> > and fire) and their resulting lack of ability to fix those things (one of
> > those desktops was in their hands for more than a month for repairs,
> > during which we had to just buy another computer for that user so they
> > could work) I talked to the management to see what we could do about it
> > and the answer was "eh, we think it's probably a problem on your
> side."[1]
> > We put all the System76 machines on Craigslist and bought Dells to
> replace
> > them, which were fine.
> >
> > I hear pretty good things about Clevo/Sager, though if you go that route
> > you're the support and warranty department :) You can get replacement
> > parts cheap enough, but not super quick. Consider it buying a machine
> > built from NewEgg and you'll be fine.
>
> I forgot my [1] footnote: we had 100 people in that office, most with
> desktops. We had 3 power supply fires. Guess what the common thing among
> them was? We also had no other weird power issues: no monitors or TVs
> getting sad, no chargers being grumpy, etc. Also, all three of those
> machines had the same maker/model power supply.
>
>
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> Bill Weiss
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