I counter-speculate that this is a failure mode of flash storage: the
controller onboard the storage device is able to accept writes into its
cache, but fails to flush the cache to the actual storage media.

-wes

On Sun, May 10, 2026 at 6:09 AM Tomas Kuchta <[email protected]>
wrote:

> I have experienced this before and not really understood it, due to the
> lack of patience and finding a workaround.
>
> My workaround was to use the Raspberry Pi imager writing what I needed to
> the SD card. I believe, if my memory serves me well, that Balena Etcher was
> also successful at writing to these SD cards. Both imagers run on Linux.
>
> From that - I guess that you can repartition the SD then write normal data
> from /dev/zero to the partitions.
>
> My wild guess was that the SD card firmware will block if trying to write
> outside the partitions boundaries. Perhaps to protect itself from being
> owerwritten. That is my speculation though.
>
> -T
>
> On Sat, May 9, 2026, 23:47 Russell Senior <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, May 9, 2026 at 3:56 PM Ted Mittelstaedt <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Have you tried a different card reader in a different computer?
> >
> > I think I literally said that in the second paragraph, but yes. On
> > plugging via a USB dongle, dmesg says it is writable:
> >
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:58 2026] usb 3-2: new high-speed USB device number
> > 18 using xhci_hcd
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:58 2026] usb 3-2: New USB device found,
> > idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0751, bcdDevice=14.04
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:58 2026] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=3,
> > Product=4, SerialNumber=0
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:58 2026] usb 3-2: Product: USB Storage
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:58 2026] usb 3-2: Manufacturer: USB Storage
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:58 2026] usb-storage 3-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device
> > detected
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:58 2026] scsi host0: usb-storage 3-2:1.0
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:59 2026] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Generic
> > STORAGE DEVICE   1404 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:59 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:59 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 31116288 512-byte logical
> > blocks: (15.9 GB/14.8 GiB)
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:59 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:59 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 21 00 00 00
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:59 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: disabled,
> > read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:59 2026]  sda: sda1
> > [Sat May  9 20:06:59 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk
> > [Sat May  9 20:07:00 2026] EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete
> > [Sat May  9 20:07:00 2026] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem
> > 40af6f66-8d84-45b4-b056-9a2ee4c5a7b5 r/w with ordered data mode. Quota
> > mode: none.
> >
> > umount /dev/sda1
> >
> > [Sat May  9 20:08:02 2026] EXT4-fs (sda1): unmounting filesystem
> > 40af6f66-8d84-45b4-b056-9a2ee4c5a7b5.
> >
> > # time dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda bs=128k status=progress oflag=sync
> > 15921446912 bytes (16 GB, 15 GiB) copied, 863 s, 18.4 MB/s
> > dd: error writing '/dev/sda': No space left on device
> > 121549+0 records in
> > 121548+0 records out
> > 15931539456 bytes (16 GB, 15 GiB) copied, 863.936 s, 18.4 MB/s
> >
> > real    14m23.938s
> > user    0m0.749s
> > sys    2m5.471s
> >
> > [Sat May  9 20:23:31 2026]  sda: sda1
> >
> > like, why is there still a partition?
> >
> > # time dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=128k status=progress oflag=sync
> > 15915155456 bytes (16 GB, 15 GiB) copied, 751 s, 21.2 MB/s
> > dd: error writing '/dev/sda': No space left on device
> > 121549+0 records in
> > 121548+0 records out
> > 15931539456 bytes (16 GB, 15 GiB) copied, 752.161 s, 21.2 MB/s
> >
> > real    12m32.163s
> > user    0m0.634s
> > sys    0m19.809s
> >
> > [Sat May  9 20:36:49 2026]  sda: sda1
> >
> > Unplug and replug, dmesg says:
> >
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:21 2026] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, device number 18
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:25 2026] usb 3-2: new high-speed USB device number
> > 19 using xhci_hcd
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:25 2026] usb 3-2: New USB device found,
> > idVendor=05e3, idProduct=0751, bcdDevice=14.04
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:25 2026] usb 3-2: New USB device strings: Mfr=3,
> > Product=4, SerialNumber=0
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:25 2026] usb 3-2: Product: USB Storage
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:25 2026] usb 3-2: Manufacturer: USB Storage
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:25 2026] usb-storage 3-2:1.0: USB Mass Storage device
> > detected
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:25 2026] scsi host0: usb-storage 3-2:1.0
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:26 2026] scsi 0:0:0:0: Direct-Access     Generic
> > STORAGE DEVICE   1404 PQ: 0 ANSI: 6
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:26 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg0 type 0
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:27 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] 31116288 512-byte logical
> > blocks: (15.9 GB/14.8 GiB)
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:27 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:27 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 21 00 00 00
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:27 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Write cache: disabled,
> > read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:27 2026]  sda: sda1
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:27 2026] sd 0:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI removable disk
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:27 2026] EXT4-fs (sda1): recovery complete
> > [Sat May  9 20:39:27 2026] EXT4-fs (sda1): mounted filesystem
> > 40af6f66-8d84-45b4-b056-9a2ee4c5a7b5 r/w with ordered data mode. Quota
> > mode: none.
> >
> > wtf?
> >
> > Same thing seems to be happening on another micro SD card on an mmcblk
> > interface on a different computer.
> >
> >
> >  Sent: Saturday, May 9, 2026 2:15 PM
> > > To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]>
> > > Subject: [PLUG] writing to micro SD card and not writing to micro SD
> > cards AT THE SAME TIME???
> > >
> > > I was trying to reformat some microSD cards last night. They are
> > apparently writable, mount rw. I umount them, use (CAREFULLY) dd to write
> > /dev/zero or /dev/urandom on to them and dd seems to happily do it. I can
> > even hexdump back out the zeros or whatever back out, for a short time.
> But
> > moments later, all the original content is still there.
> > >
> > > I have tried multiple computers, two different microSD cards, multiple
> > distribution versions, interface adapters, including your usual USB
> > adapters and mmcblk adapters, same result. It isn't a write protect slide
> > switch, because there aren't any in some of those adapters and anyway, in
> > the case where there was one, it was in the correct position.
> > >
> > > Anyone know what's going on?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Russell Senior
> > > [email protected]
> > >
> >
>

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