!heresy I've never been able to run Chrome or Firefox on Wayland on ANY gpu without disabling GPU acceleration in the apps. Disabling it in the Wayland configuration does nothing.
Frankly, the comment out of this discussion says it all: https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/r0fyrl/what_is_wayland/ "...It's what you use when you have a NVIDIA card and a multi monitor setup and hate yourself on a deep level...." That got a +9 score and you know that dozens of Waylan fanboys were super-pissed and downvoted that comment so the actual upvotes were probably in the hundreds. And that was 5 years ago. The promise of Wayland was like Scottie said in Star Trek III Search for Spock: "the more they overthink the plumbing, the easier it is to stop up the drain" Come ON people! A flipping -movie script writer- who likely couldn't code his way out of a paper bag knew that 42 years ago! (oh and that's the ultimate answer to life, universe and everything, by the way) It's so common in coding. It's sheer laziness. "oooo this is hard to understand. I don't want to give up my time playing Leage to understand it. I know let's scrap it all and start over. And by the way let's rename everything with new cool names to show everyone how smart we are" Then when the replacement gets as complicated as the old one was - which is where Wayland is now - then these developers disappear "ahh I need to go to the bathroom" Ted -----Original Message----- From: PLUG <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Ben Koenig via PLUG Sent: Sunday, May 24, 2026 1:53 PM To: Portland Linux/Unix Group <[email protected]> Cc: Ben Koenig <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PLUG] Anyone having issues with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 8GB On Ubuntu 24.04 I might be suggesting heresy here so feel free to get your torches and pitchforks ready... but are you running a full wayland desktop or X11? I ask for multiple reasons.. aside from kernel log messages, the actual errors you are encountering are mostly higher up in the stack. Top level applications like the window manager and firefox. X11 is a more mature platform. As much as people say it sucks it is battle tested and everyone knows what to expect from it. wayland on nvidia support has been iffy for a long time. I keep seeing claims that wayland is now on par with X11, but the reality is that there have been problems on wayland desktops that are nvidia specific. If you are able, try something like XFCE or KDE's plasma-x11 and see if any of these problems reproduce. The only real problem with nvidia's drivers is that they tend to have a NIH problem with the existing driver stack and often opt to roll out their own userspace components that conflict with DRM/KMS and mesa. X has the ability to handle this conflict, but wayland might be iffy. Note the nvidia-drm kernel module.. for amd/intel we just the regular drm module. This is important, because your processor has an AMD GPU built in. https://www.amd.com/en/products/processors/laptop/ryzen/ai-300-series/amd-ryzen-ai-9-hx-370.html There is a very real possibility that nvidia's driver and amdgpu are clashing which can result in applications falling back to software rendering on the CPU. It's entirely possible that each screen is being handled by a different driver result in pure userspace chaos. -Ben On Saturday, May 23rd, 2026 at 4:57 PM, Mark Phillips <[email protected]> wrote: > I have a brand new System76 Oryx Pro running Ubuntu 24.04 running on a > Ryzen™ AI 9 HX 370. Fresh install 1 weeks or so ago. I am using the > NVIDIA UNIX Open Kernel Module for x86_64 v 595.58.03. > > On every boot I get these log messages: > - NVRM: invalid 43 structure size! > - NVRM: Failed to get memory pages for NvKmsKapiMemory > - NVRM: Flip event timeout on head 0 > * I cannot run a second external monitor using USB-C connector - the > system crashes on startup > * With one external monitor on the HDMI port and the laptop monitor > the system crashes several times a day. Keyboard and mouse stop > working and I have to power off to get the system back. > * There are intermittent "soft crashes" where the mouse cursor cannot > move between monitors, it is stuck on the primary monitor. The logs > show that Mutter's cursor barrier state - the compositor - loses track > of where the cursor is allowed to travel between monitors. The "fix" > is to use a system lock/unlock to get the mouse back. > * Firefox rapidly consumes 300-400% of the cpu when opening a google > search page, and then the system crashes. Same with Typora, Chrome, KiCad, > etc. > > System76 suggested using the NVIDIA nvidia-driver-580-open. > - NVRM: invalid 43 structure size! - fixed > - Still lots of "soft crashes" requiring lock/unlock dance > - Firefox still spins up to 300% and has to be killed to prevent a > more drastic crash > - Fan running all the time and very loud > - Less frequent crashes, but still happening > > I have slowly disabled the NVIDIA GPU in an attempt to bring some > stability to my system. > - ~/.local/share/applications/typora_typora.desktop --disable-gpu > - chrome://settings → System → turn hardware acceleration off > - ~/.local/share/applications/firefox.desktop, replace all occurrences > of Exec=firefox %u with Exec=env DRI_PRIME=pci-0000_c4_00_0 firefox > %u > - ~/.config/environment.d/dri-prime.conf contains > DRI_PRIME=pci-0000_c4_00_0 > - I still get firefox spinning up to 300% and crashing the system if I > don't kill it fast enough, random "soft crashes", fan spinning up to > high speed, then back down after a few minutes with just a few tabs > and apps open. > > I finally just disabled the NVIDIA GPU altogether. > * /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia.conf: > blacklist nvidia > blacklist nvidia_drm > blacklist nvidia_modeset > blacklist nvidia_uvm > blacklist nvidia_nvlink > install nvidia /bin/false > install nvidia_drm /bin/false > install nvidia_modeset /bin/false > install nvidia_uvm /bin/false > install nvidia_nvlink /bin/false > > The system is stable now and running without any crashes and Firefox > still spins the fan up a bit, and then settles down. > > Is anyone else having issues with NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 8GB GDDR7 On > Ubuntu 24.04 using the NVIDIA nvidia-driver-580-open on Ubuntu 24.04? > All > System76 has to offer is "reinstall the OS", which I have done to no avail. > > Has anyone else noticed that System76 support has lost its "edge"? > Years ago it used to be staffed with, to me anyway, real Linux gurus > who could fix most problems. Lots of back and forth with "run these > commands and give the results" to slowly converge on the solution. > Nowadays, the suggestion I hear the most is "re-install the OS". > > I am thinking of returning the Oryx Pro and trying a "base system" > Framework 16 with the Ryzen™ AI 9 HX 370 and without the NVIDIA GPU, > since that is basically what I have now. I can try the NVIDIA GPU (12 > GB) in a few months when I need it for a project to see if the drivers > have settled down. > > Thanks! > > Mark >
