Ruben: Thanks for your help and support on this. Because of our involvement in cracking the European, Japanese, Australian and American IT, E-Commerce and Call Center markets, this year's "EC Best Practices" program at ACCEED (http://www.fmi.com.ph/ecommerce01/index2.html or http://www.fmi.com.ph) from July 23-27, will include substantial materials in developing/implementing/supporting credible and sustainable programs. I believe that we are limited to a 2-year window to make this happen, with corresponding high illusion, frustration, casualty and attrition rates along the way. Those who will not be part of the process, or those who will hesitate/stumble along the way will be better off focusing on handicrafts, dried fish/fruits; reminishing a bygone era; living off vicariously, etc. We will make sure that at least one work-group during the ACCEED program will concentrate on case-studies supporting the outsourcing push and similar initiatives. I feel a lot more comfortable with this year's program primarily because we will have case-studies/programs touching the full product/service cycle - from concept; education/training; building infrastructures and collaboration; funding; penetrating markets; expanding market share; piloting/implementing next-generation products and services; product/service positioning; setting technical and performance standards; balancing brain drain and brain gain; risk assessment; etc. Moreover, this year's contingent from the U.S. will share their experience and thoughts in outsourcing, meet face-to-face with their counter-parts in the Philippines, consummate and reinforce some..., and much much more... I would like to think that this is where the rubber meets the road. This long march will separate the boys from the men; the theoriticians from the practitioners; the dreamers from the achievers; the "wannabees" from the "warrriors"; etc. We will need a lot of help and cooperation. "It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweet and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, and comes short again and again; because there is no effort without error and short-comings; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; Who at the best knows in the the end the triump of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while doing greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who know neither victory not defeat" -- Theodore Roosevelt 1858-1919 "People are always blaming their circumstances for what they are. I don't believe in circumstances. The people who get on in this world are the people who get up and look for the circumstances they want, and, if they can't find them, make them." -- Mrs. Warren's Profession, 1893 "The pessimist sees difficulty in every opportunity. The optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty." -- Winston Churchill Have a nice day... David Paraiso http://www.edi-info-center.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hotline: (800) 949-9278 FAX: (626) 918-6115 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ruben Manga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 7:25 PM Subject: Re: [IT_INTL] Fw: E-Commerce Program for Auditors, Evaluators, Investigators, Program Managers, Regulators and Law Enforcement Personnel > David, > > Tha's nice to hear... while we are at it, have you or Normie considered > inviting people from the Phil. Dept. of Defense (DoD)?? The DoD already has > an e-procurement web site in operation and it became controversial because > some contractors are "complaining" (probably because most of their "under > the table" transactions were somewhat pre-empted). > > I would also like to invite people from the Air Transport Office and the > Airport Authority to attend. I'll also try to invite people from the air > freight forwarders, cargo handlers, and customs (the latter is a long shot > though). > > Normie -- can I ask for at least 10 invitations for the July E-Comm. > seminar?? I can have it pick up by our liaison. > > Regards, > > Ruben > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "david paraiso" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 9:39 PM > Subject: Re: [IT_INTL] Fw: E-Commerce Program for Auditors, Evaluators, > Investigators, Program Managers, Regulators and Law Enforcement Personnel > > > > Ruben: > > > > Yes, this is us at the DODIG/Pentagon. > > > > Thanks, > > > > David Paraiso > > http://www.edi-info-center.com > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Ruben Manga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 4:20 AM > > Subject: [IT_INTL] Fw: E-Commerce Program for Auditors, Evaluators, > > Investigators, Program Managers, Regulators and Law Enforcement Personnel > > > > > > > David, > > > > > > This invitation looks familiar... one of yours I guess, hmm... > > > > > > Ruben > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Mdeleon > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Saturday, May 12, 2001 12:04 AM > > > Subject: E-Commerce Program for Auditors, Evaluators, Investigators, > > Program Managers, Regulators and Law Enforcement Personnel > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The following courses will be part of the E-Commerce Program for > Auditors, > > Evaluators, Investigators, Program Managers, Regulators and Law > Enforcement > > > Personnel between May 29-31 2001 > > > > > > Purchasing, AP and AR EC/EDI/XML Programs (May 29) > > > Logistics EC/EDI/XML Programs (May 29/30) > > > Implementing Financial EC/EDI/XML Programs (May 30) > > > Auditing EC/EDI/XML Programs (May 31) > > > > > > > > > RESTRICTIONS: Federal employees only. 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