On Thu, 16 Aug 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Send plug mailing list submissions to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > You can reach the person managing the list at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of plug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: NT and Linux Security (Cito Maramba) > 2. Re: [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement! (Cito Maramba) > 3. Re: [ OT ] Announcement! (Paolo) > 4. Re: [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement! (Orlando Andico) > 5. Re: [ OT ] Announcement! (Sacha Chua) > 6. Re: [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement! (Charles Christopher G Dolera) > 7. [OT] MS bulletins fail PGP Verification (Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla) > 8. Re: [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman bwekeke ) (likot) > 9. Re: [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman bwekeke ) (Charles >Christopher G Dolera) > 10. Re: getting to know the world of djb (M. Yu) > 11. Re: [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman bwekeke ) (Marvin T. >Pascual) > 12. Re: [ OT ] Announcement! (Rogelio M. Serrano Jr.) > 13. Re: [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman bwekeke ) (Clemen Canaria) > 14. Re: getting to know the world of djb (Ian C. Sison) > 15. Re: understanding DJBdns :) (for the newbie and dns gurus ) (Miguel A.L. Paraz) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:00:37 +0100 > From: Cito Maramba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [plug] Re: NT and Linux Security > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla wrote: > > > > Personally, I think this is impossible. No system can be absolutely > secure > > out of the box. Remember that every server deployed has a purpose, > > and without taking this purpose into account, you have many potential > > insecurities. Admittedly, Linux distro vendors could do a better > > job of making a more secure default install, but ultimately, there > > is no one-size-fits-all charm. > > > I didn't mean absolutely secure ("the only secure computer is one that's > in a safe, buried twenty feet underground"). At least make an OOB > install secure from the standard rootkits and other toolz the script > kiddiez use. > Witness the large difference between the security postures of Red Hat > 6.2 vis-a-vis Trustix or Bastille Linux default installs. The standard > deviation should be made smaller between distributions. > I know different servers have different purposes but is it too much to > ask for safety from the script kiddiez? > However, security ultimately rests in the hands of the admin and not the > vendor. > > >> Dobol Jeopardy! What makes Micro$oft software exempt from Product > Liability > >> laws. > >> > >> > > > > Their EULA. > > Makes me wonder if anybody actually reads those things. Either > a) Windoze came pre-installed, so nobody reads it > b) When it popped up, they just click on "Accept" without reading it through > c) If they do read it through the end, they just shrug their shoulders > and press accept anyway > d) they read it thru, are disgusted, reboot the machine and install > GNU/Linux instead. > > When a similar EULA was on passport/hotmail which basically said that > Micro$oft 0|/\|n3d every email you sent/received on hotmail, a lot of > people went up in arms and started putting .hotmail.com in their MTA > site deny lists. This prompted M$oft to chage the EULA for passport. > Will anyone bother to read the EULA for Win XP? > > -- > Inocencio Daniel Cortes Maramba, MD |http://upcm.net/%7eidcm/ > Assistant Professor, Medical Informatics Unit|"Insert witty saying here" > College of Medicine |[EMAIL PROTECTED] > University of the Philippines Manila |"Dude, that kicks ass!" > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 2 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 08:09:34 +0100 > From: Cito Maramba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [plug] [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Orlando Andico wrote: > > > On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, M. Yu wrote: > > .. > > > >>Ah, I see. OK, so now I know where to look if I need a goddess :-) > >> > > > > oh my goddess!!!! =\ > > > > Haven't seen it. I'm big fan of "Taiho Shichuzuo" (AKA "You're under > arrest") though, which is by the same author. Natsumi and Miyuki ROCK! > > > OT talaga 'to... *sigh* > > You bet! "Final Fantasy" was rendered using Linux though.. as you > pointed out before. > Ming Na Wen, Alec Baldwin, Donald Sutherland and James Woods were the > voices for the English version but who were the seiyuu for the Japanese > Version? > > -- > Inocencio Daniel Cortes Maramba, MD |http://upcm.net/%7eidcm/ > Assistant Professor, Medical Informatics Unit|"Insert witty saying here" > College of Medicine |[EMAIL PROTECTED] > University of the Philippines Manila |"Dude, that kicks ass!" > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 3 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 15:34:22 +0800 > From: Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Organization: Infoweb Telecom (International) Limited > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [plug] [ OT ] Announcement! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "Ian C. Sison" wrote: > > > > We must get more girls on the list. It seems that Sacha is becoming very > > popular because she's the only one (not lurking?). > > > I agree. > Why are there more boys/men/gentlemen then girls/women/ladies in any > particular linux related list? > There was this gentleman on the bochs mailing list that was wailing on > IRC. > His girlfriend had told him that she initially thought he wouldn't have > to choose between time for her or time for his car since, as a > programmer, he wasn't into cars. > Instead, she had to wean him away from his linux laptop many, many, many > times. > > > Seriously, in some animal circles, the absence of adequate numbers in any > > particular sex forces others in the majority to "switch sides", which can > > be called "dynamic gender reversal".. > > > Hey, I resent that! > I may be a linux junkie but I'm no fish! Or an amphibian. ;-D > > -- > > Paolo > > Infoweb Telecom (Global) Limited > POT: (852) 2388-1168/1053/1476 or 2625-1688 loc 127 FAX: (852) 2625-1501 > 7B CNT Tower, 338 Hennessy Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong, SAR, China 852 > > --__--__-- > > Message: 4 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 15:52:38 +0800 (PHT) > From: Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Cito Maramba wrote: > .. > > > oh my goddess!!!! =\ > > > > > > > Haven't seen it. I'm big fan of "Taiho Shichuzuo" (AKA "You're under > > arrest") though, which is by the same author. Natsumi and Miyuki ROCK! > > > > > OT talaga 'to... *sigh* > > > > You bet! "Final Fantasy" was rendered using Linux though.. as you > > pointed out before. > > Ming Na Wen, Alec Baldwin, Donald Sutherland and James Woods were the > > voices for the English version but who were the seiyuu for the Japanese > > Version? > > Oy, the Quadro DDC was shown at SIGGRAPH rendering FF:TSW in REAL TIME. > Sheet. Well I guess it's "score one more for NVIDIA and their > closed-source Detonator 4 drivers." > > I'm sure Sid a.k.a. Donald Sutherland is really lamenting his final "it's > warm!!!" quote... quite memorable in a bad way. > > > -- > Orlando Andico <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Mosaic Communications, Inc. > > -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- > Version: 3.12 > GE d(-) s: a-25 C++++ UBLSI++++$ P+++ L+++>++++ E- W++ N(+) > o K? w O-- M- !V PS(++) PE- Y PGP-- t(+)@ 5(+) X++@ R(+) tv@ > b++ DI++ G e++@ h--(*) r% y+ > ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 5 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:09:03 +0800 > From: Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [plug] [ OT ] Announcement! > Organization: Ateneo Cervini-Eliazo Networks > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 03:34:22PM +0800, Paolo wrote: > > > Why are there more boys/men/gentlemen then girls/women/ladies in any > > particular linux related list? > > You may as well ask why there are usually more guys than girls on any list - or >group - that deals with technical topics, and what we can do about that. > > For example, there's still that perception that Linux is a geeky OS suitable only >for techies (mostly guys, too). And since there's so much available for Windows - >Microsoft Office, Winamp, and the Sims, for example - why would a girl who doesn't >love (or even really like) technology get into Linux? Trying out Linux (usually) >requires a repartition, and the learning curve is admittedly steeper than Microsoft's. > > That aside, I wish more girls would try this. =) It's not that they can't - just >that they probably haven't tried it out enough to like it. > > Oh, right. And there's also that assumption that most - if not all - computers are >guys, when on the Net. Would you believe that some people assumed I was gay instead >of female from the way I type? ;) > > > I may be a linux junkie but I'm no fish! Or an amphibian. ;-D > > Rana. ;) > > -- > Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 3 BS CS geek =) > Ateneo Cervini-Eliazo Networks (ACENT) tel: 63(2) 426-6001 loc 5925 > BOFH excuse #138: BNC (brain not (user brain not connected) > > --__--__-- > > Message: 6 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:40:08 +0800 > From: "Charles Christopher G Dolera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement! > Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Haven't seen it. I'm big fan of "Taiho Shichuzuo" (AKA "You're under > >arrest") though, which is by the same author. Natsumi and Miyuki >ROCK! > > Ditto !! natapos ba lahat ang episode sa AXN?last time i was following it was almost >two years ago. who wants to trade > VHS tapes for samuraix,flame of recca,ghostfighter hmmm. transfer ko kaya sa VCD >format. > > > cheers! > charles > > > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 7 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 16:41:57 +0800 > From: Rafael 'Dido' Sevilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [plug] [OT] MS bulletins fail PGP Verification > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I don't know what the hell is going on in Redmond these days. Kind of > consoling to know that we are not completely their slaves... > > http://www.newsbytes.com/news/01/168397.html > > --=20 > Rafael R. Sevilla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> +63(2) 8177746 ext. 8311 > Programmer, InterdotNet Philippines +63(917) 4458925 > http://dido.engr.internet.org.ph/ OpenPGP Key ID: 0x5CDA17D8 > > --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > Content-Disposition: inline > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iD8DBQE7e4dUOG5lOFzaF9gRAkl5AJ9otOX5CQFji1S7KTRpqSvGFlza7ACfeYoK > Kwq7E3RoQqtW8O+j/TCAAds= > =B+wb > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- > > --__--__-- > > Message: 8 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 01:50:59 -0700 (PDT) > From: likot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman bwekeke ) > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- Charles Christopher G Dolera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > >Haven't seen it. I'm big fan of "Taiho Shichuzuo" > > (AKA "You're under > > >arrest") though, which is by the same author. > > Natsumi and Miyuki >ROCK! > > > > Ditto !! natapos ba lahat ang episode sa AXN?last > > time i was following it was almost two years ago. > > who wants to trade > > VHS tapes for samuraix,flame of recca,ghostfighter > > hmmm. transfer ko kaya sa VCD format. > > got 100 gigs of anime here maybe we could talk ( most > of them are in avi/divx format some mpegs and rm's ) > oh by the way have you seen the 4 part samurai x ( > rurouni kenshin) oav's ? one of the best i've seen :) > > i got 1-26 of cowboy bebop (complete set) this anime i > also suggest you to watch :) > > -Dek > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 9 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:02:01 +0800 > From: "Charles Christopher G Dolera" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman bwekeke ) > Organization: Lycos Mail (http://mail.lycos.com:80) > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >got 100 gigs of anime here maybe we could talk ( most > >of them are in avi/divx format some mpegs and rm's ) > >oh by the way have you seen the 4 part samurai x ( > >rurouni kenshin) oav's ? one of the best i've seen :) > > Pwede pa copy? =) will be flying to manila next week and will make it > to the linux event sa APC. Anyone want Durian? > > cheers! > --charles > > > Get 250 color business cards for FREE! > http://businesscards.lycos.com/vp/fastpath/ > > --__--__-- > > Message: 10 > From: "M. Yu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] getting to know the world of djb > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:50:04 +0800 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > out djbdns. djbdns feels neat, but what bothers me is the strange (to > > mainstream Unix users) djb philosophy like with his daemontools, which > > want to create /command and /service directories (*shudder* to Linux > > He's actually trying to standardize his file locations. Against what, I > dunno. > > > Anyway, get to know djb at http://cr.yp.to . Has a lot of flames towards > > Paul Vixie (ISC/BIND), Red Hat, and of course... Wietse Venema. > > Yea, a lot of people do not like DJB (and vice-versa). But his philosophy > is sound (it adheres to the Unix Philosophy of software doing 1 thing only > and doing it good). He's got an enourmous ego and fights tooth-and-nails > with anyone who questions his software or promotes the competition. You > should read the thread currently going on at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something > as unimportant as AXFRs have almost a 3 week-long thread going on and has > degenerated into name-calling and not-so-subtle insults. :-) > > M. Yu > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 11 > From: "Marvin T. Pascual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman bwekeke ) > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:28:42 +0800 > Organization: B. I. R. > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Pwede pa copy? =) will be flying to manila next week and will make it > > to the linux event sa APC. Anyone want Durian? > > Taga-Davao ka bai? Magdala ka naman ng durian kahit kunti lang para sa > akin. BTW libre? = ) hehehe... > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 12 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2001 01:24:54 +0800 > From: "Rogelio M. Serrano Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [plug] [ OT ] Announcement! > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Hmmmm. When is the next Plug gathering guys? All this talk about Sacha got me >curious. A girl who likes to program linux is rare. > > Paolo wrote: > > > Sacha Chua wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 08:16:10AM +0800, Marvin T. Pascual wrote: > > > > > > > > > Pwede ka nang magka-bf! = ) hehehe... > > > > > wala sigurong papasa... > > > > Oo nga naman. Kailangan babaan mo Sacha ang QS mo sa guys. = ) hehehe... > > > > > > Butbutbut we need to hold ourselves to a standard of excellence! ;) Quality >assurance at its finest! Continuous optimization! > > > > > > 'la ring oras. Besides, what guy would go for a girl who's more into Linux and >computers than into mushy stuff? ;) > > > > > Uhhhhhh, {scratches head}, a geek? > > > > Mushy stuff you say? This email will have a flag on it that will be > > triggered on the day Sacha get's a boyfriend. ;-D > > > > -- > > > > Paolo > > > > Infoweb Telecom (Global) Limited > > POT: (852) 2388-1168/1053/1476 or 2625-1688 loc 127 FAX: (852) 2625-1501 > > 7B CNT Tower, 338 Hennessy Road, Wanchai, Hong Kong, SAR, China 852 > > _ > > Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph > > To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 13 > From: "Clemen Canaria" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman bwekeke ) > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:29:53 -0700 > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ako rin baka pwedeng makahingi ng durian, masarap daw yun e. di pa ako > nakaka tikim. libre ba? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Marvin T. Pascual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 2:28 AM > Subject: Re: [plug] [ WAY, WAY. OT ] Announcement!(anime talk naman > bwekeke ) > > > > > Pwede pa copy? =) will be flying to manila next week and will make it > > > to the linux event sa APC. Anyone want Durian? > > > > Taga-Davao ka bai? Magdala ka naman ng durian kahit kunti lang para sa > > akin. BTW libre? = ) hehehe... > > > > _ > > Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at > http://plug.linux.org.ph > > To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 14 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:32:23 +0800 (PHT) > From: "Ian C. Sison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [plug] getting to know the world of djb > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, M. Yu wrote: > > > > want to create /command and /service directories (*shudder* to Linux > > > > He's actually trying to standardize his file locations. Against what, I > > dunno. > > One does not standardize by making one's own standards \8! > > > > Anyway, get to know djb at http://cr.yp.to . Has a lot of flames towards > > > Paul Vixie (ISC/BIND), Red Hat, and of course... Wietse Venema. > > > > Yea, a lot of people do not like DJB (and vice-versa). But his philosophy > > is sound (it adheres to the Unix Philosophy of software doing 1 thing only > > and doing it good). > > I beg to disagree, and for my defense i put forth the "standard" C > function named 'ioctl' \8) > > > > --__--__-- > > Message: 15 > Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2001 17:49:31 +0800 > From: "Miguel A.L. Paraz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [plug] understanding DJBdns :) (for the newbie and dns gurus ) > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2001 at 12:07:49AM -0700, likot wrote: > > :) hopefully you had type make after adding things or > > doing ./add-ns or blah everytime you edit the data > > file or do anything remember to type make :) errr > > hopefully thats the problem :) > > well, I *don't* understand why it's not working - > 'make' and 'tinydns-data' are creating a new data.cdb, > but for some strange reason even 'tinydns-get' could not > pick it up. > > so I do my usual approach - read the code and debug - > but djb seems to have written his code in a way that > few (or one else?) can understand it. even > tiny-dns.get.c, a paltry 1542 bytes, looks like alien > code. (oh yeah, coz he replaces libc with his own > functions). > > so I'm throwing in the towel on tinydns for now, until > I have to look at it again. I'm happy to have dnscache > running at the very least. > > > > --__--__-- > > _______________________________________________ > plug mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug > > > End of plug Digest > _ Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
