I suggest you try Eiffel or SmallEiffel. I prefer it more than Java or
C++. 

On Wed, 5 Sep 2001, Jeff Gutierrez wrote:

> 
> Hi Joel,
> 
> #not to start any language holy wars, but yes, java has a... "cleaner"
> #implementation of object-orientedness than C++... 
> #
> 
> Yeah, but Java still suffers from mixed structured, and OO
> dilemna. e.g. the primitive data types, and the Math class.
> 
> #i'll maybe try doing small
> #prototypes in C++ and in Java and see if the speed issue doesn't matter
> #much...
> #
> 
> For small programs, chances are any JVM won't fair with the speed of C++
> binaries.  The JVM bootstrapping normally takes a while (even with -client
> switch in Sun JVM) since it initializes a number of subsystems -- gargabe
> collector, all the properties files, all the hooks, etc. Small, 
> short-lived applications space is not Java's turf.  Its turf is in 
> long-lived applications such as embedded software, and applications
> servers.
> 
> A word of caution when using C++: Always consciously write default ctors,
> copy ctors, assignment operators, and (virtual, and 
> non-virtual) destructors.  Most leaks tend group-up in those functions. ;)
> 
> stay cool.
> 
> jeff --
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