On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 at 19:58, R Feria wrote: > Well, that can be arranged - provided that UPManila provide me with > transpo (hatid-sundo hehe) and a higher per hour rate. hehehe...
Unfortunately I can guarantee neither. I'm a lowly student. ;> > I have heard not so good feedback regarding the CS program in Manila. > I'd recommend that you shift to Diliman while you still have a chance. > Perhaps you can be one of my lead student assistants. ;-) Maybe it's too late. I'm already in my fourth year of residency (1998-xxxxx), and am a sophomore by standing (shiftee from Biology). I'll just finish my BSc. There are books and PLUGgers like you to help guide me along the lonely path of righteousness. Besides: I have advocacy to do! ;> > Teaching a programming language is necessary. It's necessary and it's been done. CS11 focused on C. CS21 focused on C++. Why Magboo decided to force Java down our throats in our data structures classes when we already know C/C++ is beyond me. Imagine: we've spent the first few weeks of our lab classes learning Java instead of learning various algorithms and implementing them in our choice of C or C++ (or whatever, if you ask me). > It helps in training students on how to solve problems and implement > their solutions using a programming language. :) > However, teaching Java in Data Structures is not ideal because of the > fact that Java does not have pointers. Man, you should talk to those guys! Este, -that- guy. Magboo handles the CS curriculum. It's funny, because he has a BSc in Math, and an MD. I'm sure he has some MSc but I doubt it's in CS! > Learning pointers is fun - and necessary in implementing various data > structures. Definitely fun! I enjoyed using pointers for linked lists a lot. But then when I saw Python's list data type I freaked out. It's so much more human. Hahaha. So now I'm enjoying Python's very English-like language. ;> > This is the reason why we are teaching students Java AND C prior to the > Data Structures. We were taught C/C++, including pointers, linked lists, and using these for stacks and queues in CS11 and CS21. Why Magboo's shoving Java down now is beyond me. Imagine: we're learning java.awt.* and java.applets.* in DATA STRUCTURES AND ALGORITHMS! BOOOHOOOOHOOOO!!! Someone strike down that doctor with a bolt of lightning. > And I do agree, students do have their choice of programming language to > use - except when teachers require certain languages, of course. In UP Manila we don't. And neither do the lab instructors. Our lab instructor, a fairly proficient one, prefers C. Except she was instructed explicitly to force us to use Java. :( > Shifting from UPM to UPD is not too late since you have yet to take an > OS course. Another thing: I doubt they'll let me in without "divine intervention". Do you want me to send you a breakdown of my grades? (personally, of course, hehehe). > As for MSCS, yes, I encourage you to take it in Diliman. Hehehe... Unless of course somehow I get a scholarship for ... CalTech. ;> --> Jijo -- Federico Sevilla III :: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator :: The Leather Collection, Inc. GnuPG Key: http://jijo.leathercollection.ph/jijo.gpg _ Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
