> Actually Andy, Butch Landingin is perhaps _THE_ Pythonista in PLUG. A

hehe, OOPS!

> pioneer, this guy's been hacking away at Python and Zope for quite awhile

Hmmm... not too crazy about Zope though... find it too complicated. I'm
not really a fan of application servers in general (Midgard? whoosh...
over my head, zzz....). My present approach is to code custom solutions
from scratch (or reuse my own previous routines) in PHP.

I find the Java/Javabeans vision pretty compelling though, and if I take
on a project that needs to scale, the first technologies I will investigate
for use in it will be JSP, Servlets, and Beans.

Not too hot on XML-family technologies either. XML is a CTS-victim's
nightmare.  XSLT can't decide if it wants to be a programming or a mark-up
langauge (shudder).  Xpath is amazingly concise and would be close to
perfect but just when you thought you could use it on its own, it turns out
to be incomplete! You need to pair it with XSLT!!  Duh, dumb. DOM is
another incredibly mediocre spec (and way worse than XML for CTS sufferers)
- requiring you to write 3-5 lines to generate something equivalent to a
pair
of tags in HTML (grrrr!) - innerHTML is the most useful DOM property around
and it's not part of the f*kin spec!! SOAP? Simple my ass.  The list of
monstrosities goes on... anyone around here able to explain RDF without
putting
people to sleep in less than 10 seconds?

I wonder... could the fact that the W3C "is in Microsoft's pockets" have to
do with their coming out with these cumbersome bloated specs?


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