okay din ang rpms dahil sa rpm database. :) On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:55:08 +0800 (PHT) "Ian C. Sison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>|> ----- Original Message ----- >|> From: "Michael Balcos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >|> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >|> Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:48 PM >|> Subject: Re: [plug] why not slackware? >|> >|> >|> > I'm using Slackware to deploy thin servers. Slackware alone is functional >|> > in this arena. Packages are well selected in the distribution, and should >|> > I need something else there is no problem in compiling from the source on >|> > your own. True, Slackware has no dependency provisions for its packages. >|> > But since simplicity is in the philosophy of the distribution, it takes >|> > little time to get acquainted with many of its packages, thus rendering >|> > packet management less useful. The "D" disk set, even by default, will >|> > suffice for compiling most of the code necessary for servers should they >|> > be not included in the distribution. True, also, that Slackware has no big >|> > set of secure packages. But this means that distribution maintenance will >|> > not be bloated with package maintainers. You will also have a rather >|> > greater control over your system since you don't have a big set of >|> > packages where you rely on package management, and you virtually know >|> > every functional component in your system. >|> > >| >|When it comes to maintaining several 10s or hundreds of linux servers, >|this "knowing every functional component in your system" is not >|sustainable. Don't get the idea that it is, because it's not. >| >|When it comes to maintaining the security of your system, it's so terribly >|important that there's an MD5 signature you can rely on to see if a binary >|has been compromised. >| >|When it comes to determining versions of packages, and reliably and >|completely purging a file system of the files associated with it, there >|needs to be an all-encompassing list of files so they are not 'lost' when >|it's time for uninstallation. >| >|When it comes to determining package dependencies and which one breaks >|what, and which version depends on which version, this is absolutely a >|requirement when dealing with dynamically linked linux applications! >| >|Think about it, if the 'tar.gz' approach filled up the needs of a modern >|distribution, there would be no need for RPMs and DEBs, and no one would >|code such 'monsters'. >| >|Tarballs are important, no doubt. We all learned from them, We >|hand-toiled around our 20 3.5 inch diskettes of slackware years ago. But >|now that linux is second nature, it's time to move on, and advance. >| >|Learning how to compile your own .src.rpm can be even more fulfilling and >|productive than being able to adapt a tar.gz to your box. Why? Because >|all the stuff and keystrokes you did to adapt the tarball goes into the >|.spec of the source rpm. You can share your work with others, maybe not >|willing to go through the process of 'hand-compiling'. >| >|And that's what open source is all about. Sharing. >| >|It's 4 in the morning. Do you know what /usr/bin/pawd is for? >| >|Oooh, i know! it's: >| >|rpm -qi `rpm -qf /usr/bin/pawd` >| >| >|_ >|Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph >|To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >| >|To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com _ Philippine Linux Users Group. Web site and archives at http://plug.linux.org.ph To leave: send "unsubscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe to the Linux Newbies' List: send "subscribe" in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
