Poor choice of environment if you ask me.
That's my URGENT response.

So there.


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>    1. Re: desktop manager (Rick Moen)
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>    3. Re: Install Problem (Rick Moen)
>    4. Re: desktop manager (Rick Moen)
>    5. Developer's Meeting (Ivy Cabeza)
>    6. divx Player (proxy)
>    7. Re: The joys of Emacs: the one true editor ;) (Sacha Chua)
>    8. Re: The joys of Emacs: the one true editor ;) (Sacha Chua)
>    9. RE: desktop manager (Marvin Pascual)
>   10. Re: The joys of Emacs: the one true editor ;) (Rick Moen)
>   11. Re: screen (was: desktop manager) (Sacha Chua)
>   12. Re: list of archives (Arnel G. Pastrana)
>   13. Re: desktop manager (Rick Moen)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:08:06 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] desktop manager
> From: Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Quoting Sacha Chua ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > [1] screen is a very handy program that multiplexes terminals. We do
> > all sorts of weird things with it. <g> I should write something about
> > screen soon...
>
> GNU Screen rocks my world.
>
> That's why I gave it a section of its own in
> http://linuxmafia.com/lwce2001/ .
>
>
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> Message: 2
> From: "Marvin Pascual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [plug] desktop manager
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:25:27 -0700
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Moen
> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:08 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [plug] desktop manager
> >
> >
> > Quoting Sacha Chua ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> >
> > > [1] screen is a very handy program that multiplexes terminals.
> > > We do all sorts of weird things with it. <g> I should write
> > > something about screen soon...
> >
> > GNU Screen rocks my world.
> >
> > That's why I gave it a section of its own in
> > http://linuxmafia.com/lwce2001/ .
>
> I'm sorry for my ignorance but, what can "screen" do to my computing needs?
> What are the primary use of that package?  What is it for?
>
> Thanks.
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:29:36 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] Install Problem
> From: Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Quoting G-Shock ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > RedHat 7.3 cant prove my AHA1520B during installation, Any idea or
> > suggestion on how to fix the error.
>
> Just refreshing my memory:  The AHA152x series (x=0 means no floppy
> support, x=2 means floppy support) used Adaptec's AIC-6260/6360
> chipsets, and were ISA and VLB-type.  The driver was named aha152x.
>
> This was basically the cheaper cousin of the AHA1542 series, omitting
> the better cards' ability to do busmastering DMA -- leading to much
> higher CPU load.
>
> Anyhow, I'll bet I know what the problem is.
>
> A lot of Linux kernel hardware drivers attempt to probe for the hardware
> they support, and identify their hardware "resources" (IRQs, I/O base
> addresses, and sometimes DMA channels) by looking for their option ROMs
> (aka BIOSes) -- the cards' onboard firmware.  This is particularly
> helpful for ISA cards, since ISA's tracking of hardware resources was
> always pitiful.
>
> However, a lot of people insert these cheap ISA SCSI cards with the
> options ROMs disabled -- especially when they're cheap add-ons to an ATA
> ("IDE")-based system, where you want system BIOS interrupt 13h's boot
> rootines getting mapped to the ATA devices, without the SCSI chain's
> boot ROMs confusing the issue.
>
> I'll bet you have the AHA1520B's option ROM (BIOS) disabled via the
> card's jumpers.  This might even be necessary for your system to
> successfully boot (though it might not).  But unfortunately, it means
> that the card will _not_ be auto-probed successfully -- because the
> driver can't find the ROM, and therefore can't map out how to talk to
> the card.
>
> If that's the case, then your workaround is to inform the booting kernel
> of all the necessary hardware details (what driver, what I/O base
> address, what IRQ).  See:
> http://www.ibiblio.org/mdw/HOWTO/BootPrompt-HOWTO-6.html
>
> If you use LILO, you can pass this stuff as command-line parameters to
> the booting Linux kernel by putting an appropriate "Append=" line in
> /etc/lilo.conf (and then, as always, re-running "/sbin/lilo -v" to
> implement the change).  If you're using GRUB or something else, do
> whatever's analogous.
>
> --
> Cheers,            There are only 10 types of people in this world --
> Rick Moen          those who understand binary arithmetic and those who don't.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 01:31:03 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] desktop manager
> From: Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Quoting Marvin Pascual ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> >> GNU Screen rocks my world.
> >>
> >> That's why I gave it a section of its own in
> >> http://linuxmafia.com/lwce2001/ .
> >
> > I'm sorry for my ignorance but, what can "screen" do to my computing needs?
> > What are the primary use of that package?  What is it for?
>
> Out of curiousity, are you asking this question before or _after_
> reading the indicated text?
>
> --
> Cheers,            There are only 10 types of people in this world --
> Rick Moen          those who understand binary arithmetic and those who don't.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 16:34:57 +0800
> From: Ivy Cabeza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
>      Philippine Linux Users' Group Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [plug] Developer's Meeting
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> i would like to propose a developer's meeting next saturday, july 20.
> are you guys interested? i believe we have been scheduling one for quite
>
> sometime now. ASTI is willing to provide the needed facilities.
>
> we'll be discussing the development of the bayanihan version 2.0.  we
> will
> consider all the comments we have received and we hope people are
> willing
> to volunteer.  ASTI is planning to build an opensource community for the
> bayanihan
> linux development. however, the meeting is not confined on bayanihan
> linux alone.
> we could discuss any project including the filipino linux documentation
> project
> and other future projects.
>
> also, we welcome non-technical people who wants to contribute in their
> own
> simple way (maybe through documentation, website maintenance, etc).
>
>
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>
> Message: 6
> Date: 11 Jul 2002 08:35:25 -0000
> From: "proxy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [plug] divx Player
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> hi pluggers,
>
> Can anyone suggest a good divx Player for linux. I've tried divx.com but
> there's bugs and problem. Except xine and mplayer.
>
> Thank you,
> proxy
>
> --__--__--
>
> Message: 7
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] The joys of Emacs: the one true editor ;)
> From: Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 11 Jul 2002 16:49:37 +0800
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Jessie Evangelista <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I've heard sacha rant before about emacs and to tell everyone the
>
> Rave, dear. The right term is rave.
>
> Rant would be something I'd do about certain operating systems sold by
> a particular monopolistic corporation...
>
> > truth, I've never even fired it up. I'm sure a lot of people here are
> > not using it so I was just thinking, maybe sacha can give a
> > lecture/seminar on Emacs. I'm sure a lot of peeps would love and
> > appreciate this. It will also serve to demonstrate emacs in
> > action(assuming hands-on access is possible).
>
> Hmmm. Emacs seems a little intimidating if you're just starting out,
> but if you go through the tutorials confident that you can eventually
> understand it, you'll survive.
>
> I could show off the funky things I'm doing with Emacs, I
> guess. <laugh> But it's not really much - do my mail, look at my
> calendar, speech-synthesize a HOWTO in the background while
> participating in #linuxhelp in a split window that's between my
> outlined notes and my BBDB records... ;)
>
> Don't expect a step-by-step tutorial - there are plenty on the Net,
> and Emacs has a cool tutorial inside it - but more like a whirlwind
> tour of packages I find particularly useful. <laugh>
>
> Emacs is _so_ cool.
>
> And it's really good for students, too, which is why I'm cc'ing this to licuts.
> Want to get together and talk about cool ways to use software for school?
>
> --
> Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 4 BS CS Ateneo geekette
> interests: emacs, linux, wearables, teaching compsci, making games
>
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>
> Message: 8
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] The joys of Emacs: the one true editor ;)
> From: Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 11 Jul 2002 16:58:10 +0800
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> "Marvin Pascual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > I for one, I don't use Emacs eventhough I've heard of the good features that
> > it has.  I'm a vi user eversince.  =)
>
> See, I used to use vi. (Let's just forget about my pico phase, okay? ;) )
>
> Of course, vim was _much_ better.
>
> I liked how vim knew how to color all these weird files I'd be
> editing. I liked how it integrated with ctags so that I could browse
> through source code easily.
>
> I used to switch between vim and emacs. vim for quick hacks, emacs for
> extended editing.
>
> Then I discovered all of these Emacs goodies.
>
> I realized I could do so many things in Emacs. I think that's pretty cool.
>
> I tried several mail clients. Liked features from here and there, and
> was thinking of learning enough elisp to hack the features together
> into one client. Then the people on #emacs clued me onto gnus. gnus is
> cool. It's a newsreader that can do mail quite well.
>
> I tried several organizers. Right now I'm using remember.el to jot
> down random ideas and outline mode for my school notes. diary takes
> care of my schedule and todo takes care of my tasks.
>
> I'm trying out some web browsers. Still haven't decided which one I
> like the most. w3's asynchronous operation is great, but it messes up
> on some pages. I hear w3m has acquired asynchronous support now.
>
> I can still do vi. I know how to map and map! in order to make my life
> easier. I can use hjkl (when I'm not on dvorak) and I can
>  :%s/foo/bar/g with all the rest of them. But I love emacs. =)
>
> And you know what? I actually find its interface more intuitive than
> vi's. Easier to learn, even. Easier to customize. Easier to tweak.
> Yes, some people have a hard time remembering all of those control
> sequences, but you'll pick them up through practice. You can easily
> define your own keymaps, anyway. =)
>
> Wishlist for emacs: Better integration with screen! I want to have new
> frames show up in another screen window!
>
> --
> Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 4 BS CS Ateneo geekette
> interests: emacs, linux, wearables, teaching compsci, making games
>
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> Message: 9
> From: "Marvin Pascual" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: [plug] desktop manager
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:10:52 -0700
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> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rick Moen
> > Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 1:31 AM
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> > Subject: Re: [plug] desktop manager
> >
> >
> > Out of curiousity, are you asking this question before or _after_
> > reading the indicated text?
>
> I don't have an Internet connection here and I can't visit your site.  =(
>
> Any overview will do, if don't mind.  =)
>
> Thanks.
>
>
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] The joys of Emacs: the one true editor ;)
> From: Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Quoting Sacha Chua ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
>
> > Then I discovered all of these Emacs goodies.
> > I realized I could do so many things in Emacs. I think that's pretty cool.
>
> Herewith, a modest suggestion for your /etc/lilo.conf :
>
> boot=/dev/sda
> root=/dev/sda1
> install=/boot/boot.b
> map=/boot/map
> delay=20
> vga=normal
> default=linux
> image=/boot/vmlinuz
>      label=linux
>      read-only
>         append="init=/usr/bin/emacs"
>
> --
> Cheers,                     "Get the facts first.  You can distort them later."
> Rick Moen                                                     -- Mark Twain
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> Message: 11
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] screen (was: desktop manager)
> From: Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 11 Jul 2002 17:05:26 +0800
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Federico Sevilla III <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > For which use I have found Xfce to be PERFECT! The small "taskbar"
> > doesn't occupy that much space, and has icons for my most run programs
>
> But screen can manage your apps even in console! ;) I get this nifty
> little window list in my terminal bar (or as the last line of my
> display when I'm in console). Bless those docwriters for putting that
> incantation in the manpage.
>
> > (mozilla, gvim, and wterms with customized titles for various SSH
> > stuff). For the task list, I've mapped my Windows keys to the WindowList
>
> One of the reasons why I tend to prefer X is, well, yes! More keysyms
> to play with! I'm tempted to map Win_L to Hyper and Win_R to
> Super... ;)
>
> > running in a screen. I noticed that unlike Pine, mutt (at least along
> > with vi) doesn't seem to have an auto-recovery feature for email that
>
> vi can restore, I think, but I don't know if mutt handles it nicely.
>
> > I mustn't forget to mention of course that screen allows sessions to be
> > given nice names, that allow not just for easy recall of active sessions
>
> I usually only have one session running, and I invoke screen with screen -x -RR.
> That allows me to have the same screen in multiple rxvts when I need it. =)
>
> I regularly use multiuser screen over ssh. I share screens with this
> guy in Romania just for the sheer heck of it. (Seriously!)
> It's... well, it's an unusual experience. You should try it. It's tons
> of fun. You almost feel like a collective mind or something.
>
> --
> Sacha Chua <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> - 4 BS CS Ateneo geekette
> interests: emacs, linux, wearables, teaching compsci, making games
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 17:14:42 +0800
> From: "Arnel G. Pastrana" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Organization: AIIAS International Elementary School
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Whoops. It turns out I forgot to permit symlinks. Corrected. Please
> > check it out again and let me know if everything's okay. :)
> >
>
> It works now Jijo Thanks din:)
>
> >
> > Thanks for the feedback. :)
> >
> >  --> Jijo
> >
> > --
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> > Network Administrator  :  The Leather Collection, Inc.
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> Message: 13
> Date: Thu, 11 Jul 2002 02:09:54 -0700
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [plug] desktop manager
> From: Rick Moen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Any overview will do, if don't mind.  =)
>
> OK.  Quoting:
>
> Screen: Runs console sessions remotely on your behalf, keeps them open
> after you disconnect, with easy reconnection and resuming all running
> applications the way you left them. Natural combination with SSH.
>
> The GNU Project's screen utility is one of my mainstays, letting me keep
> my most-used applications open and able to be resumed exactly as I left
> them, all the time. I normally leave several copies of my preferred
> e-mail program, mutt, running, plus the lynx Web browser and slrn for
> reading Usenet newsgroups. Screen as a "session multiplexer" will keep
> my place in each such session. I reach my machine from wherever I am
> using SSH remote login, and then do "screen -r" to reattach all the
> running screen sessions to my current terminal.
>
> Screen has a built-in cut-and-paste mechanism reminiscent of the old
> Quarterdeck DesqView one. It also has automated session logging,
> supports screenshots, configurable window titles, and has a screen-lock
> feature. Type "ctrl-a ?" to see a command quick-reference.
>
> Screen's default configuration file is (naturally) /etc/screenrc, which
> individual users can override using ~/.screenrc .
>
> For the truly devoted, there's an entire screen-type window manager,
> called "ratpoison", http://ratpoison.sourceforge.net/ , with the slogan
> "Say goodbye to the rodent".
>
>
> References:
> http://www.gnu.org/directory/screen.html
> http://www.gnu.org/software/screen/screen.html
>
> --
> Cheers,      "He was clearly a man of many qualities, even if most of them
> Rick Moen    were bad ones."   -- Douglas Adams, describing Zaphod Beeblebrox
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