oohh well... Grsec lids etc.. have diff implementation and how they work and how u 
can Evade them... :)

    Once the user gained root access and once the user try to load a module to bypass 
checks etc... and install some km backdoors etc... it  will ooppsss.... and die hard 
:) = loading a module will not work.

    rick - nice one hehe

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----- Original Message -----
From: Pong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wed, 4 Dec 2002 12:13:31 +0800 (PHT) 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [plug] can't delete a file (IMMUTABLE)


> 
> 
> On Tue, 3 Dec 2002, vuln- dev wrote:
> >    
> >       This is a very straight forward answer. (too much work to do heh) 
> > you can make a module that loads up during boot sequence that can remove
> > immutable flags etc.. and  it will make chattr useless... (extract the
> >symbol addresses for the FS) 
> > 
> 
> what about preventing a root cracker's loadable module that re-enables or
> bypasses checks to the immutable bit?  then the cracker can then delete
> any file without even using chattr.  you'd also need to protect against
> this type of attack. many folks have done this: LIDS, GRsecurity, etc...  
> 
> pong
> 
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