Dear Sir, Sorry about the way my reaction was written, to be honest I was trying to, at least get a response/reaction of some sort form Sunstar about a topic I find important. ---- A few months back I emailed the editor about asking something(not this topic) and to my knowledge no response until now. Good thing it was not really that important---- Thank you for responding. :)
> No. I am not implying that. But the analysts interviewed by the AFP > reporter point to a member of the open source community as behind the > attack. The article was written on a Thursday. The cybercafe page is > finished by Friday afternoon. Yes the virus has been traced as most likely > to have come from Russia, by someone apparently hired by spammers. But this section (of sunstar) was only presenting the opinion of the "analyst" what about from FOSS&/ FSF? :) > > I think that most analysts were quick to point a finger at a member of the > open source community because of precedents. After $CO announced there > claim on Linux, a few members of the open source community launched denial > of service attacks against SCO and Open Source Initiative president Eric > Raymond had to make a public appeal for Linux users to stop the attack > saying. "This attack was wrong, and it was dangerous to our goals. I > realize the provocation was extreme, since March, SCO has threatened, > grossly insulted, and attacked our community and everything we've worked > for. I'm certainly not without sympathy for the person who did this." Is that a fact that Linux users were behind the attack? not w/o Sympathy for the persons behind the DoS attack, or those behind the MyDoom virus/worm? (smile) What if SCO was behind the DoS attack? As claimed by some observers... Would you also have some sympathy for SCO in such a ? (laugh) > And I don't fall for FUD's, I'm a journalist for God's sake, I help clear > fears, uncertainties and doubts with reporting. In my opinion this is subjective and depends on the journalist in question. I do not know you well enough to say that it is true or not (your above statement) (smile). > You mean Linus Torvalds not Troval. If you read the Cybercafe page again. > You might notice that I place an announcement there that the new Bayanihan > version is already out. Thanks for the correction :) Bayanihan linux, I did not notice that , thanks. :) I do not monitor Bayanihan Linux very often because we are not using it --- Redhat based right? are they going to switch to Fedora something based? :) ---- , It was decided from the start not to use any distro that has a high possibility of going pure commercial, like lindows, pre Novel SuSe,etc. thus Mandrake & Red Hat were not options for our company. ( Debian & Slackware were chosen) kernel 2.6.1 have some new features. (big smile) > And by the way, we use Apache, PHP and both open source databases > PostgreSQL and Mysql to run the backend of our newsroom archiving and web > system. We use Linux as file servers. I released an article a few years > back using the GNU equivalent of copyleft. The last thing you can accuse me > of is being a tool for FUD by SCO or any proprietary company. So does SCO and many others(use apache and even GNU/Linux). (Half smile) Sorry about the implied accusation(see first part of this email) > Yes. I run Red Hat at home and my son loves playing with the bundled potato > man. My PC dual boots with Windows. I still have to run other distros but I > need Windows because I am in the publishing business and I have to run > Pagemaker. Until the open source Scribus (check it out at Freshmeat) > fulfills its goal of being an open source InDesign or Quark Express, I'm > stuck with Windows. I tried linux for the 3rd time last year and found that it was already good enough to use ( Surfing, online-games, email, wordprocessing, etc.) and I've been using gnu/linux..... we're currently using Slackware in our office (no non-GPLed OS ). :) Lastly, I'm very sorry if I have offended you. NB: Coppies were also sent to the recipients of the first email (regarding this topic....) Good day! Bryan On Tuesday 03 February 2004 18:54, you wrote: > Dear Bryan, > > Good day. > I was on leave yesterday and I only got to read your message this > afternoon. > First, let me point out that the article you wrote was a dispatch from > the Agence France Presse, the French news agency. But, still let me answer > the points you raise. > > <<+ Is the online editor implying that the Open source/ Free Software > community is behind these attacks?>>> > No. I am not implying that. But the analysts interviewed by the AFP > reporter point to a member of the open source community as behind the > attack. The article was written on a Thursday. The cybercafe page is > finished by Friday afternoon. Yes the virus has been traced as most likely > to have come from Russia, by someone apparently hired by spammers. > > I think that most analysts were quick to point a finger at a member of the > open source community because of precedents. After $CO announced there > claim on Linux, a few members of the open source community launched denial > of service attacks against SCO and Open Source Initiative president Eric > Raymond had to make a public appeal for Linux users to stop the attack > saying. "This attack was wrong, and it was dangerous to our goals. I > realize the provocation was extreme, since March, SCO has threatened, > grossly insulted, and attacked our community and everything we've worked > for. I'm certainly not without sympathy for the person who did this." > > (Yes I do keep track of $CO *.%#! legal claim on Linux and the quote is a > verbatim lift of an August article saved in my files.) > > I think the previous attacks, made the analysts interviewed by AFP quickly > suspect a member of the open source community. I certainly did not say that > I suspected a member of the Linux community of staging the attack. > > > <<<+ Is the online editor taking the side of SCO?-- by helping (SCO) in > it's apparent F.U.D. campain?>>> > No. I think the world will be a better place if SCO's legal claims are > unmasked for what they are: a 1 in a gazillion shot at annexing a great > project while helping them boost their stock. And $CO's officers made a lot > of money by selling stocks when the prices went up owing to their faulty > Linux claim. > > I am confident, however, that in the end, all these would bankrupt SCO and > the open source license would be upheld. > > And I don't fall for FUD's, I'm a journalist for God's sake, I help clear > fears, uncertainties and doubts with reporting. > > > << + Is the online editor aware that there are (to my knowledge) many UNIX/ > UNIX-Like operating systems in existence (eg. Linux, SCO Unix, BSD, etc.)? > Thus, is the editor sure that SCO really owns what she claims to own?>>> > > Yes. I run Red Hat at home and my son loves playing with the bundled potato > man. My PC dual boots with Windows. I still have to run other distros but I > need Windows because I am in the publishing business and I have to run > Pagemaker. Until the open source Scribus (check it out at Freshmeat) > fulfills its goal of being an open source InDesign or Quark Express, I'm > stuck with Windows. > > Am I sure? I am sure that SCO'S CLAIM IS BULLSHIT WRAPPED IN LEGAL > MUMBO-JUMBO. The claims increases their stocks' worth and they get an added > bonus through payments of company's who do not want to wait out the case > and settle. Even in the remote chance that their claims are upheld, I'm > sure the Linux community will immediately issue a release taking out the > offending code. I think there is already a code that allows that. > > Robert X. Cringely is right: Companies that turn to the courts as SCO has > done are either dominant players in their market niche or desperate outfits > that feel they have run out of other options. SCO Group appears to be the > latter. > > > <<+ Is the online editor up to date regarding this issue? (SCO vs IBM, > some up to date information may be found on www.groklaw.net , > www.linux.org , etc.)>> > > Yes. I visit Newsforge at least 3 times a week and sites that deal with it > and other tech issues. > > > <<+ Is the online editor not in a position to consult with, or hear the > side of groups/individuals advocating Open Source/Free software? eg. > Philippine Linux User Group (PLUG), the BAYANIHAN Linux Project, Mr. Linus > Troval, Mr. Richard Stallman, Open Source Initiative, Free Software > foundation www.gnu.org, IBM, Novel, etc. >> > > You mean Linus Torvalds not Troval. If you read the Cybercafe page again. > You might notice that I place an announcement there that the new Bayanihan > version is already out. > > I do not know if by chance you've read it, I featured in 1 WHOLE PAGE a > year or two back how to install and run PHP-Nuke and Post Nuke scripts to > run your own automated website, these were bloggers on steroids before > blogging hit the mainstream. I love open source CMS scripts and have been > involved in testing and using a few scripts. Since I am not a programmer, > what I offered to the few open source projects I have been involved in is > to offer my help in editing how-tos and other tech writings. > > I've never given proprietary software this treatment. > > And by the way, we use Apache, PHP and both open source databases > PostgreSQL and Mysql to run the backend of our newsroom archiving and web > system. We use Linux as file servers. I released an article a few years > back using the GNU equivalent of copyleft. The last thing you can accuse me > of is being a tool for FUD by SCO or any proprietary company. > > > Have a good day. > > Max Limpag > Online Editor > Cybercafe editor > Sun.Star Cebu -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug . Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie
