On Sat, 2004-07-03 at 07:43, Marvin T. Pascual wrote: > On Fri, 2004-07-02 at 15:13, Joel Realubit wrote: > > check this out: > > > > http://www.inq7.net/inf/2004/jul/02/inf_1-1.htm > > > > some guy says local linux skills are 'scant'.... perhaps someone on this > > list (or companies like Q-Linux?) could talk to the PNP about their > > opens-source concerns? this could prove to be an excellent opportunity > > to promote Linux and open-source in general...
I think its 'scant' because you're not trying to reach the general public. And who's the general public? We, us, some of us here, some cant even afford to stay in the net for too long, to subscribe to some Linux/programming/technical mailing-lists like this. Yes, the general public, that one your'e seeing occupying a large portion below that social status pyramid graph of yours. And theres a horde of imporvished linux/opensource dedicated talents in there. No offense but, Hows it that everytime you fortunate elites have this event, they all go to some first class hotel ballrooms or something? How about making it a little casual, so like some smalltime software investors/developers dont get frightened with their braced-teethed, ameriKKKan-wantobe-like fellow seatmates in some conference =) > Actually, during the "The Government CIO Open Technology Briefing: > Understanding the Issues Behind Commercial and Open Source Software in > Government" forum held at Rizal Ballroom B & C of Shangri-La Makati > Plaza Hotel last July 1 hosted by Sun Philippines and Microsoft > Philippines (isn't it ironic?), the speakers who talked for Microsoft > were trying to inject into the minds of the government CIOs who attended > the said forum that the commercial software is much better, well tested, > secured, reliable and stable compared to Open Source Software. They > also point out that in commercial software, the companies and the > government can blame or they will know who to blame/run to when the > software will have a problem, bugs, etc. But in an Open Source > Software, you don't know who they can blame for any problems of the > software they're using. As if they could blame MICROS~1 for their loss and their _stupidity. :P I dont know how these big companies work, but for an average MICROS~1 consumer 'end-desktop- users' point of view, could they at least read their EULA's: THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS-IS" WITHOUT ANY WARRANTIES. Shure is hard, isnt it? "government can blame or they will know who to blame" Yep, yet another Filipine Classic. (gov) 'They just go on blaming ang blaming, blame him, blame that, until they die gnashing their teeth still dreaming who's to blame on why they died' > I wasn't able to control myself not to ask Mr. Wilson Chua regarding on > his presentation because he really did his assignment This time, this man didnt. > and well prepared Well briefed > when he gave his talk about securing I.T. infrastructure. He discussed > how insecure Open Source and Linux because of the reports and surveys he > presented during his talk. He even emphasized that in reality, there > are more Linux servers that were cracked, crashed, etc. compared to MS > Windows servers. > > He also discussed about why it takes time before Microsoft releases > security patches. He pointed out that Microsoft has this so-called the > "Vulnerability Timeline" Oh yea, I think I've read this before. Like MS had this somewhat like a 'racoon city'(mov: resident evil) where they invent the computers and all that high tech things, and they have a 'think-tank', a room where all the world's highly paid geniouses meet, including our philippine ph.d's, and they've comeup with this breakthrough algo: "Vulnerability Timeline" == "If I'ts broke, um well..we'll fix it later" I think they'l patent this in the days to come :) > where their developers really discuss, study > and test first before they release the said security patches. And > that's where I asked him about that "Vulnerability Timeline". > > My question to him was: "Assuming you are the owner of a well-known > E-Commerce site that currently running MS Windows and IIS and you've > heard that there is a major security hole on the IIS. What will you do > then with your site considering the fact that Microsoft will still have > to follow the Vulnerability Timeline process and there are already some > sites that gets cracked? Will you decide to wait for Microsoft to > release their security patches and your site will still be up or let > your site stop from operating for a moment as long as Microsoft releases > their security patches?". Well, what did he told you? > By the way, the former Regional Director of Red Hat ASPAC, Mr. Chris > Sharp is now the Regional Director of Microsoft ASPAC. Just FYI. -- -stderr(Cagayan de Oro) -- Philippine Linux Users' Group (PLUG) Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED] (#PLUG @ irc.free.net.ph) Official Website: http://plug.linux.org.ph Searchable Archives: http://marc.free.net.ph . To leave, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/plug . Are you a Linux newbie? To join the newbie list, go to http://lists.q-linux.com/mailman/listinfo/ph-linux-newbie
