Ahhhh. Thanks for clarifying!

Maybe I still don't understand what you're asking but SNMP, email push and text notifications have been around for decades. Now most ip devices have either a web gui or telemetry app.

But anyway, I personally don't do IoT mostly due to security but also b'cuz email & txt mssgs more than enough digital comm. I like to live IRL! =)

On 03/04/2018 02:52 PM, [email protected] wrote:
On 2018-03-04 13:11, Mke C> wrote:
On 03/04/2018 11:52 AM, [email protected] wrote:
If I sold you an IoT device that sent email, how would you want it to do
so?

I'm looking for the ideal compromise between minimum work programming
the thing, reliably getting emails to people who need them (i.e., not
getting caught in spam traps), and not asking the IT people at the
organization where the thing is installed to poke Great Big Holes in
their firewalls.
I don't see any biz opportunity in this at this point. Allow me to
enumerate why.

1. Cloud/ISP based email is ubiquitous, easy and free.

2. Most people wouldn't get why they'd want to pay for such a thing.
Even someone like myself who's very security/privacy conscious can use
free/donation based options like ProtonMail, Riseup.net, Signal, etc.
All of these services encrypt user content so they can't even read it
and maintain minimum or no identifying info and won't turn over.

3. There are also plenty of Open Source email server virtual machines.
Companies are rapidly virtualizing and free personal virtualization is
sure to follow.

4. The email server itself isn't the tricky bit.
I've done a bit of email server admin, both on Linux and M$. How
"reliable email" works is a messy & complicated affair and never
inspired me in anyway to want to have a personal email server.

Don't forget that each email server would've to have a registered
domain. That's not free. And there's DKIM and SFP records for
validation.

If something goes a wry and the email server is comprised and/or
blacklisted that'll be a customer service nightmare.

That's my take on it all. I'm curious if you see this differently.

Not a device that lets YOU send email -- a device that sends you email when it needs attention (i.e., it fails a built-in-test, or it's out of feedstock, or whatever).

Are you a sysop?  Do you have to take care of IoT devices (nuclear plants, toilet bowl cleaner dispensers, that sort of thing) that send notifications?  If not, you're not in my targeted knowledge pool.


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