What I am trying to create is a .125" diameter hole with no copper or
solder mask within .050 inches of the hole. So there is a clearance of
0.05" from the hole edges.  If I misunderstand what clearance means or what
it is clearance from, then that could explain  some of my difficulty.

Since my last posting I examined the stock library "mounting holes".  They
have just a .030 hole regardless of the mm specified in the name of the
footprint.  Only a ring on the Cmts.user layer changes with dimn. implied
by  the footprint name.  Is there a way to tell the drill file how to use
the Cmts.user layer?

-Denis

On Sat, Jul 14, 2018 at 6:05 PM, Erik Lane <[email protected]> wrote:

> That sounds to me like you're actually creating a plated hole, if the drill
> size is larger than the finished size. I'd first double check that.
>
> On Sat, Jul 14, 2018, 5:24 PM Denis Heidtmann <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> > Thanks to the advice given to me here I have made progress on this
> > venture.  I managed to figure out the library stuff.  I figured out how
> to
> > make an array of unconnected footprints.  I have done some routing.
> > Great.
> >
> > Now I am trying to create an unplated hole .125 inches in diameter with
> > .050 inches clearance to the solder mask and any copper.  I found
> numerous
> > references to this on line, but do not know the magic yet.  Starting
> with a
> > mounting hole in the provided library should be the easiest, but I cannot
> > figure out how to edit them--I cannot see the hole size in the footprint
> > editor, so do not know how to change the hole size.  I created a few of
> my
> > own footprints which had a .125 inch hole, but when I check the
> > gerber/drill file they had a .150 inch hole.
> >
> > So some more clues would be gratefully appreciated.
> >
> > -Denis
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 2:35 PM, Denis Heidtmann <
> > [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Erik,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the offer.  I will let you know if I do not undo the logjam
> in
> > > a reasonable time.  Paul has offered some very helpful suggestions
> which
> > I
> > > hope will get me where I need to be.
> > >
> > > -Denis
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Erik Lane <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I'm out of town for the next ten days or so, but over I'm back if you
> > >> still
> > >> need help with this I can meet you somewhere. I live in Vancouver, so
> > >> would
> > >> usually prefer something North of the river, unless he can coordinate
> > with
> > >> some other errands in running over there.
> > >>
> > >> I'm by no means an expert, but have used various versions of KiCad to
> > make
> > >> a fair number of boards and custom footprints.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Erik
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Jul 11, 2018, 9:52 PM Denis Heidtmann <
> > [email protected]>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I am afraid I must be very dense or stupid.  I cannot find a way to
> > find
> > >> > out what $KIPRJMOD is set to.  Is this not a variable that I should
> be
> > >> able
> > >> > to determine the valve of, either using set, printenv, or echo?
> > Setting
> > >> > that question aside, you say "The /libs/footprints.pretty part can
> be
> > >> > anything you like, as long as it corresponds to an actual directory
> > >> > structure within your project directory."  What is my project
> > directory?
> > >> > It seems my project is not a directory; it is a file.
> > >> >
> > >> > The file fp_lib_table resides in the same folder as the .pro, and it
> > >> > contains:
> > >> > (fp_lib_table
> > >> >   (lib (name Mounting_Holes)(type KiCad)(uri
> > >> > "$(KISYSMOD)Mounting_Holes.pretty")(options "")(descr ""))
> > >> >   (lib (name socketbd)(type KiCad)(uri
> > >> > "$(KIPRJMOD)/socketbd.pretty")(options "")(descr ""))
> > >> > )
> > >> >
> > >> > Some of this may not matter since kicad has tools dealing with the
> > >> > intricacies of the file structure.  I do not know if the other
> > problems
> > >> I
> > >> > am encountering are related to directory-related errors or not.
> > >> >
> > >> > I have been trying to create a 1/8" ID hole without any Cu and a
> > >> clearance
> > >> > to the solder mask and the ground plane.  I keep getting an error
> > >> stating
> > >> > "Error: the pad is not on a copper layer and has a hole" in one
> > instance
> > >> > and something else that I cannot get to repeat at present about
> > needing
> > >> the
> > >> > hole and the pad to be the same size, which they are.  These
> questions
> > >> are
> > >> > likely due to vagaries of kicad requirements for NPTH pads and not
> > >> library
> > >> > issues, but since I cannot seem to save what I have done, I will
> blame
> > >> > anything.
> > >> >
> > >> > I intend to go to the Clinic this Sunday in the hopes that someone
> > there
> > >> > can set me on a correct path.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks for reading this rambling complaint.
> > >> >
> > >> > -Denis
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 2:39 PM, Paul Mullen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 02:18:05PM -0700, Denis Heidtmann wrote:
> > >> > > > The issue I expect to encounter is choosing the new file and the
> > >> > > > file name.  It seems kicad has rules (kept secret) for directory
> > and
> > >> > > > file names.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I don't think it cares about the directory name.  Footprint files
> > need
> > >> > > a .kicad_mod suffix, though.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > To KiCad's PCB editor, pcbnew, the directory is the library, and
> the
> > >> > > files are footprint modules within the library.  pcbnew has a tool
> > for
> > >> > > adding new footprint libraries,  Preferences->Manage Footprint
> > >> > > Libraries... (the actual name may differ between versions).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > The tool will create a file in your project named fp-lib-table.
> > >> > > Alternatively, you can create the file yourself.  It should look
> > >> > > something like:
> > >> > >
> > >> > >     (fp_lib_table
> > >> > >       (lib (name "My Custom Footprints")(type KiCad)(uri
> > >> > > "$(KIPRJMOD)/lib/footprints.pretty")(options "")(descr "My custom
> > >> > > footprints!"))
> > >> > >     )
> > >> > >
> > >> > > $KIPRJMOD is automatically set, and points to the directory
> > containing
> > >> > > your design's .pro file.  The /libs/footprints.pretty part can be
> > >> > > anything you like, as long as it corresponds to an actual
> directory
> > >> > > structure within your project directory.
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > > --
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