On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 14:54:25 -0800
Keith Lofstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
...
> However, I vaguely recall being told that gnome3 can be
> configured to behave very much like gnome2. 
> 
> Is this true?  WHERE CAN I LEARN MORE????
...

On Wed, Dec 25, 2019 at 02:29:35PM -0800, Tom wrote:
Tom> 
https://linuxreviews.org/GNOME_Developers_have_Made_Their_Moves_against_Themes

KL: frightening!

Tom> There are lots of good libraries for developing gtk2 like perl-gtk2 on
Tom> CPAN and wxglade.

KL: ... and no doubt some of the third party tools I use depend on
them.  I haven't gotten beyond borked xterms yet, much less testing
other apps.

Tom> I have spent a great deal of time on finding myself a good solution to
Tom> this problem over years and have settled on forking and maintaining
Tom> myself various standalone gtk2 and QT components to have a complete
Tom> desktop environment which I use as a daily driver. I would be more than
Tom> happy to share any software and recommendations I have running. I've
Tom> got my entire system up and running smooth on GCC9 and glibc 2.29-r3 as
Tom> well as the Devuan base system.

KL: Sounds wonderful!  Time for an /un/fork?  What's the 
easiest way to accomodate your valiant efforts in the long
term?  What are the security risks?  What corporate users
are also faced with quicksand under their working tools,
and might help you and me keep all this working for years
or decades?  Second-tier electronics CAD companies might
also be facing this cliff, as well as large academic tool-
makers.

Perhaps call the result gnome2+s, which is gnome2 plus
security patches and bug fixes forever.  As time goes on,
those should asymptote towards zero, which is why I prefer
proven older tools.  

I've been using "Scientific Linux" for many years, which
is mostly CentOS with extra scientific tools, and a support
community focused entirely on stability.  They aren't going
to shut down the Large Hadron Collider or multi-YEAR
computation jobs at Los Alamos because some clown at Redhat
wants code for his "smartphone" AKA dodopaddle.  However,
Scientific Linux did get shut down by clueless managers at
Fermilabs who don't want to pay for "duplication".  Sigh.

Keith

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Keith Lofstrom          [email protected]
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