On 02/12/2020 09:35 AM, Jason Barbier wrote:
I know both these miss the disable the wifi point, unless you unload
the kernel module but the gdp pocket and the Gemini both ship versions
without cellular modems.

No cell modem would be the minimum. Learning to modify kernel to disable the WiFi would be valuable education.
Are they in current production?
Do you have current URLs? What I found dated to when they were crowd funding.
Can I avoid Amazon and Ebay?


As for the pinephone you have to look on the forums about 2019-nconv effects 
are on production but the chances are right now its none because they are only 
shipping in engineering sample batches, that's also why you can't find FCC 
info, it's not yet certified and the braveheart edition isn't a production 
device its a preprod engineering sample. There are also no importers of any 
pine64 stuff that isn't how their businesses operates right now. That said I 
got my pinephone, they were able to mail it straight to me, I didn't have to 
deal with customs at all and its a pretty nice mobile data consumption device 
that I can do wifi surveys with.

I'm not interested in engineering prototypes. I was in engineering support in the 70's and 80's. I did testing of PDP-11s related to FCC type acceptance. I'll wait for product intended for retail customers. The pages I read didn't give me a warm fuzzy feeling that they were even aware of FCC type acceptance.


On Feb 12, 2020, at 03:56, Richard Owlett <[email protected]> wrote:

I've explored this issue in the past without finding something:
  in current production.
  meeting my non-negotiable specifications.
  satisfy enough of my preferences to be a good fit to how I do things.

This is a rewrite of some multiple posts to debian-user and adjusting phrasing 
that caused off topic responses.
I post here as:
  this group is not Debian specific,
  it will provide a different point of view.


I wish to enter/store data while away from home. The data will then be 
transferred to my laptop via a USB cable. [think a Palm Pilot in a smartphone 
physical form factor]

It must use a standard Linux (Debian preferred).
The manufacturer should ship with the Linux installed.
Android is *UNACCEPTABLE*!
It should NOT have cell connectivity.
If it has WiFi, I must be able to disable it.

When I looked a few years ago there were some open source hardware projects in 
the prototype stage but I don't recall any that reached production. [There was 
something similar based on Raspberry Pi which ended up too thick due to how 
screen was attached.]

Recently I was pointed to the PinePhone.
  https://www.pine64.org/pinephone
  https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone
https://www.pine64.org/2020/01/24/setting-the-record-straight-pinephone-misconceptions

It meets my cell connectivity and WiFi requirements with a set of kill switches.
https://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/PinePhone#Killswitch_configuration

I can see practical procurement problems.
The site hasn't updated to report on impact of Coronavirus.
There isn't any indication of any U.S. importer - I don't want to have the 
hassle of handling any duties or FCC type acceptance of the included RF 
components.

It does have a nice set of specs.

Any suggestions or survey articles I should read.

TIA


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