On Fri, Mar 27, 2020 at 1:07 PM Mike C. <[email protected]> wrote:

> >
> > One option that was mentioned was FreeConferenceCall.com.
> >
> > Out of curiosity, I casually looked this up via an online search and was
> > given 2 hits.
> >
> > FreeConferenceCall.com
> > FreeConference.com
> >
> > Both websites appear very similar, but do not obviously reference each
> > other. I do not believe they are the same company despite very similar
> > appearances.
> >
> > I smell bullshit. Someone is copying someone else, and while I don't know
> > if this is a legitimate attempt at competition or direct attempt to
> deceive
> > users, I'm not using either service.
> >
>
> FreeConferenceCall.com is the original. They've been around for just shy of
> 20 years. FCC is also open source.
>
>
> > IMO both of these services present a potential for identify theft that
> > goes above my tolerance levels.
> >
>
> Clearly, like anything else, each person has to assess the risks and make
> appropriate choices per the comfort level with the risks.
>
> I generally give preference to Open Source vs closed source and the longer
> a FOSS application has been used, reviewed and maybe security audited the
> more I generally favor it.
>
> It would certainly be more of a project, but XMPP supports voice & video
> and each participant can use whatever XMPP client their heart desires.
>
> I know riseup.net has secure chatrooms but everyone would need a riseup
> email account.
>
> Rocket.chat has free self-managed, self-hosted server This version is
> fairly feature rich with live streaming, public & private channels and
> multi-factor authentication.
>
> https://rocket.chat/pricing#self
>
> In these strange & interesting times where millions of people are doing a
> lot more online communication and I suspect many very interested parties in
> said communications, I'd much prefer a self-hosted, self-managed solution
> with as much security, privacy, anonymity as possible
>


Adding to the list is the matrix protocol.  The details start to go over my
head, but it has been adopted by the KDE community. I've been looking into
setting up a test room and trying the voip/video features, if they exist.
matrix.org

They still do a lot of the node.js style development that I'm opposed to,
but they have the advantage of backing from more reputable FOSS
organizations. There's a significant difference from saying "we love open
source" and saying "KDE is using us in their project". Their documentation
is also much more straightfoward in terms of what is/isn't possible.
Matrix is interesting is because the protocol is decoupled from the client
and server. This creates more transparency and trust for users. If a
particular client or server is no longer secure (by whatever definition of
secure you subscribe to), just move to a different one.

Features seem limited, but that could change.
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