I settled on tmux because I couldn’t figure out side-by-side window panes in 
screen. I’ll give screen another try it would be great if it supported it. In 
any case, i use a serial console app such as minicom[1] or OpenBSD’s cu[2] to 
console into my router when initially setting it up or the rare occasion I 
cannot access it by ssh.

[2] https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Working_with_the_serial_console#Minicom
[2] https://man.openbsd.org/cu

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 11:57 PM, Russell Senior <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 11:31 PM Kevin Williams <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Russell,
>>
>> Yes, tmux works the same way.
>>
>> Rich,
>>
>> tmux and screen are command line applications that launch and manage
>> sub-shells (a shell in a shell). You can remote into a server, like your
>> shell at your web host, start editing a file, open another window and view
>> a man page, and then detach from the tmux or screen session, log out of the
>> remote session, and come back to your running text editor and opened man
>> page later by reattaching to the same tmux or screen session.
>>
>> tmux even supports splitting a terminal window into multiple panes and run
>> apps side by side or top and bottom. I don’t know if screen supports side
>> by side.
>>
>
> I think screen does support side-by-side, but I don't use it so I can't say
> for sure. Tmux does not support serial consoles natively though, which I
> use extensively, and that is why tmux is dead to me. ;-)
>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 9:28 PM, Tomas Kuchta <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I am curious what distro are you running?
>> >
>> > I am running openSuSE and usually clock up about half year on the KDE
>> > session before some update forces reboot. I keep it running 24/7 to pull
>> > emails local, monitor environment (temp/humidity), VPN, remote desktop,
>> > .... other services. I have not experienced memory leaks.
>> >
>> > Tomas
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 8, 2022, 21:41 American Citizen <[email protected]>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi:
>> >>
>> >> I am running the KDE Plasmashell desktop, but it has memory leaks and
>> >> eventually I will run out of system memory.
>> >>
>> >> If I logout, I will lose certain running jobs, which I really want to
>> >> keep running.
>> >>
>> >> However if I start a shell, and do the %jobs -l command, nothing is
>> >> there, so I cannot use %disown -r command nor prepend nohup in front of
>> >> some command line execution with a background exec &.
>> >>
>> >> Just how can I attach a nohup to certain running pids, such that if I
>> >> have to logout of the desktop session, these jobs still keep running?
>> >>
>> >> So far, the examples I have seen of nohup and disown, assume that one
>> >> has a current shell open. They don't discuss what happens after the
>> fact?
>> >>
>> >> Currently, if I logout of the desktop session, or restart the desktop, I
>> >> lose the running programs.
>> >>
>> >> Any idea on how to stop this?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>

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