On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, 16:22 Keith Lofstrom <[email protected]> wrote:
> I have an ancient Tripplite 700VA UPS, which is briefly
> triggered maybe twice a year, and needs a new sealed lead
> acid (SLA) battery maybe every two years.  
...
> New technology LiFePO4 batteries last much longer and are
> environmentally cleaner than an SLA, and are shape and
> terminal compatible, but they charge differently.
...

On Thu, Jan 05, 2023 at 06:38:52PM -0500, Tomas Kuchta wrote:
> I came to the same lithium based battery UPS conclusion - there are no
> easy, economical, reliable and save choices.
...
> My solution is to get and wire external marine deep discharge battery to my
> UPS when I need to replace its internal SLA battery. They play nicely with
> the UPS and should last about decade for the similar cost to SLA.
...

Keith Lofstrom responds:

Shades of the past - I did the same thing 30 years ago.
I have a "dumb" shoebox-sized device designed to work with
marine batteries.  It worked so well that I forgot to
maintain the batteries, and they sulfated.  I can imagine
designing a smarter device managed by an Arduino rather
than a forgetful owner, but can't imagine finding the
time to design and build and "Make Magazine" it.

I can also imagine designing an Arduino-ish "power shim
board" that sits in between the terminals of a LiPO4
battery and the plugs of a UPS designed for SLA, which
transforms voltages and currents and impedances so that
the combination "looks like" a SLA battery to the UPS.
That costs even more time, which I have better uses for.

The Tesla Powerwall is an exuberantly extreme version of
that, and I can imagine gubmint/utility mandates/subsidies
and variable power pricing with buyback making a ($15K
retail?) Powerwall pay for itself in the long-term.  

OTOH, I don't want a potential medium-yield bomb hidden in
the house.  Outside, when a resale market for Powerwalls
develops, catalytic converter thieves will develop another
profit center.  Then I must trap them and sell their
organs ... not the direction I want to go in life. :-(

Ah well.  Time to buy a cheap SLA battery, fix up my old
SLA UPS, then send a check to Nature Conservancy to
assuage my lead-acid eco-guilt.  The LiPO4 batteries
can power a slightly modified-mobility scooter, which
a relative may be needing soon.

Keith

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