I expected some questioning since I was vague in that area. My memory isn't known to span any length with much detail. ;)

It was a while ago and there was a laundry list of problems. Two bigs ones were X and configuration programs crashing and network issues. No matter what I did with config files or configuration utilities I could not get the network up and running. Every other distro had network up and running automatically. I was used to having to get my network running manually from various server projects, but Suse just wasn't going for it. Like I said, it was some time ago and I'm not exactly sure on the details. And I probably could have fixed a lot of problems given enough time, effort, and knowledge. But my point is, why should you when you have at least half a dozen other distros that work fantastically right out of the box. Maybe I just got a bum install, either way it really turned me off.

Eric

Josh Coates wrote:

Out of all the Distros I tried over that week (Debian, Slackware, Fedora,


Mandrake, and a few others I forget) Suse was by far the most unstable.

what do you mean by "unstable"?

did it kernel panic?  was stuff was 'broken' by default?

i'm not trying to be facetious, i'm just curious what you mean.

Josh Coates
http://www.jcoates.org

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Eric Jensen
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 1:42 PM
To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: Novell & Open Source


You can get ISO of the eval version there, but not the full. Only option for that is the FTP install, which from what I remember wasn't the smoothest process I've experienced with Linux. Especially if you have a NIC that isn't all that supported and takes a bit of work to get up and running. I even tried running a local FTP with the same directory structure with no luck. Getting full non-eval ISOs for Suse is not easy, I remember having to search all over for a torrent file. From what I gather, this has been a huge negative for moving over to Suse for a lot of people. Doing a several gig install over your internet connection doesn't sit well with a lot of people. Installs can take long enough as it is, especially if you are the type who like to do the easy full install.

After I did get Suse installed, I was not impressed.  It was pretty and
user friendly, but horribly unstable.  Out of all the Distros I tried
over that week (Debian, Slackware, Fedora, Mandrake, and a few others I
forget) Suse was by far the most unstable.

I was very excited for Novell to run a project like this, but they are
making it hard to stay excited.

Eric

Bradley Dorner wrote:



Novell does offer a free download of SuSE. Try the
following link. They actually have a live eval that
runs on the DVD, or you could install off of an ftp
site, or download an iso image.

http://www.novell.com/products/linuxprofessional/downloads/suse_linux/index


.html


Brad
--- Barry Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:





On Tue, Feb 15, 2005 at 10:24:21AM -0700, Lars
Rasmussen wrote:




On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 10:20:04 -0700, Gabriel




Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:




Novell is putting its code where its mouth is.




I'm really starting to




like what I see.  For example:

Novell Launches Open Source Collaboration Server




Initiative




http://www.novell.com/news/press/archive/2005/02/pr05014.html




This will fill a big void it the open source




world.




Now if they could only ship a version of SuSE




that had a current Gnome




desktop and installed stuff in the right




directories.




& didn't overload the server when you ran the




yast2 backup module as




superuser...




And a version I could give to friends/newbies.

I really would like to support the home team, but
most people I
convince to try linux aren't ready to buy it, they
want to try it
first.  And since Fedora and Debian are ok with
that, that's what I
give people.

But I guess that isn't the market Novell is going
for.  Seemed to work
well for RedHat, though.

Barry Roberts

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