Digis has ruined the 2.4 spectrum here in the Utah with all their illegal signal levels.

unless you can prove that, that sounds a lot like corporate defamation to
me.

Hmm, talk to any other wisp in utah including the guy who runs digis? Go inside a basement with a laptop, and see if you can see a Digis AP show up. Simply ask your buddy at digis if his amps + antenna put him over the FCC limits? I bet there is somebody in utah that has a spectrum anyalizer that can back it up.


and if you can prove illegal activity, why don't you call up the
founder/president of digis (i've spoken with him several times, he's easy to
get on the phone) and ask him to stop?
This guy called up digis and basically Digis said "Get lost, F you". You are welcome to talk to him. He is trying to get a petition to getther to incourage the FCC to inforce its laws. I am not associated with him at all. I think his name is Alan.

American Internet 371-0750


and if you do, why don't you help educate the community and tell us how it
went?

Yep, they said "F off"



(btw - i'm back on plug for a while, so all you over-sensitive crybabies can
put me in your killfile again if you'd like.)

I hope I dont sound sensitive. You kind of do.. hehe he. Flame right back at ya.


- Dave

inal Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dave
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 8:27 PM
To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List
Subject: Re: Graphing packet loss

You might find out an IP address to the Access point he connects to. Then you can ping the Access point, also ping someplace a few hops beyond his ISP. If you can ping the AP and loose packets at the ISP level, the ISP is over provisioned. If you loose packets at to the AP it could be a signal issue. If he in using 2.4 spectrum, the problem is almost for sure Digis noise pollution. Digis has ruined the 2.4 spectrum here in the Utah with all their illegal signal levels.

Josh Coates wrote:

smokeping is easy and all it does is graph packet loss. i use it. (http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/smokeping/_
plus it's kind of neat looking.

-josh



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf
Of Hans Fugal
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2005 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Graphing packet loss

My dad is having serious come-and-go packet loss issues
with his ISP
(a Vernal local wireless setup). I'd like to give him some leverage with some nice cacti graphs of packet loss, but I'm having
a hard time
pinning down precisely what to graph.

The following is an excerpt of /proc/net/snmp:

Tcp: RtoAlgorithm RtoMin RtoMax MaxConn ActiveOpens PassiveOpens AttemptFails EstabResets CurrEstab InSegs OutSegs
RetransSegs InErrs
OutRsts

Would any of those directly measure packet loss? If not,
might some of
the stats in /proc/net/tcp (or anywhere else) have the information (which I could then get into SNMP easy enough).

It'd be really nice if I could tell on the router what kind
of packet
loss is happening, but I'm not sure you can do that, and since the subnet is a whole two computers that's not a big issue.

--
Hans Fugal ; http://hans.fugal.net

There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself.
  -- Johann Sebastian Bach

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