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1. Mustang is the next version of Java, not a third-party.
2. I think Java will never really take off on the desktop until Microsoft includes a JVM that's a nice and as integrated as OS X's. That may never happen. But IMO this is a problem with Microsoft, not with Java. 3. Yes, I think that Swing is about 2-3 years behind Qt. Let's see if Qt can continue to innovate, or if Swing is able to catch up!

        ~ Ross "I'm not so System.out.println("verbose")" Werner ;-)

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