Apologies for the first response, the ISP apparently stripped out the original 
pasted messages.

The first two entries are from our Oracle server, vader, which is configured to 
relay to our domain email server mcfeely.

"Apr 20 15:01:34 vader sendmail[31241]: k3KL1YJQ031241: [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
ctladdr=cis (502/502), delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=relay, 
pri=30309, relay=[127.0.0.1] [127.0.0.1], dsn=2.0.0, stat=Sent (k3KL1Yn5031243 
Message accepted for delivery)
Apr 20 15:01:40 vader sendmail[31245]: k3KL1Yn5031243: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
ctladdr=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (502/502), delay=00:00:06, xdelay=00:00:06, 
mailer=relay, pri=30466, relay=mcfeely.gwic.net. [192.168.254.2], dsn=2.0.0, 
stat=Sent (k3KL4Oxf018842 Message accepted for delivery)"

These seem to be the corresponding entries on mcfeely to relay the requrest to 
the final destination.

"Apr 20 15:04:30 McFeely sendmail[18842]: k3KL4Oxf018842: from=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, size=825, class=0, nrcpts=1, msgid=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=[192.168.1.8]
Apr 20 15:04:31 McFeely sendmail[18846]: k3KL4Oxf018842: to=<[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30655, 
relay=mx1.west.cox.net. [68.6.19.3], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable
Apr 20 15:04:32 McFeely sendmail[18846]: k3KL4Oxf018842: k3KL4Wxf018846: DSN: 
Service unavailable"

It appears to me, the unlearned, that the Service unavailable is with the 
mx1.west.cox.net.  It that right?

Stephen C Smith


------- Original Message -------
>From    : Andy Bradford[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent    : 4/24/2006 2:48:41 PM
To      : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc      : [email protected]
Subject : RE: Re: Tracking Email routing 

 Thus said Stephen Smith on Mon, 24 Apr 2006 13:41:14 MDT:

> When email do not get delivered, no bounce notices are received and no
> errors are registered.

Where would you  expect bounces to go? Normally they  go to the Envelope
Sender address; is your application setting a sensible one?

> Not being an  email expert, more like  a novice, I could  use a little
> help tracking  down the issues.  Is there an equivalent  to traceroute
> for email, that would diagnosis routing issues?

I don't know  of a traceroute-like tool, however, your  best resource is
going to be the mail logs. If you  don't have good logs, or even easy to
read logs, then you are in for a long debugging. You also need to have a
firm understanding of  what your applications are doing.  Are they using
/usr/lib/sendmail? Are they speaking SMTP with a particular mail server?
What do the logs say?

If you  don't have  good logs, the  next best thing  is tcpdump  or some
other sniffer  that can watch  SMTP traffic.  Capture a message  off the
wire with tcpdump and then use tcptrace to reconstruct it (or ethereal).

Andy
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