On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Michael L Torrie wrote:
To really appreciate the benefits of vim/emacs you have to see someone
really proficient in doing the taks with that editor at work. It works
both ways. Are IDEs easier to plod through than vim? yes.

Dr. Scott Woodfield in the BYU CS dept is one person who will blow
anyone out of the water using vim.  Watching what he can do with vim
amazes me.  Honestly, eclipse would just slow him down (although he
might be using eclipse for nice build-tool integration these days; I
don't know).

I firmly believe that one can be very, very proficient with vim and yet still prefer Eclipse for Java programming. I don't believe I'm at the Hans Fugal level of vim proficiency, but I think I have a good chance of being in the top 10 of pluggers. Eclipse *does* slow me down in terms of text editing tasks, but I find that all of the other tools it provides more than makes up for that slowness.

That said, I think it's possible to write a decent vi plugin for Eclipse that gives you the best of both worlds. I started the task and got far enough to prove to myself that it's possible, but unfortunately I've become too busy to pursue it in the last few months. I'll have to pull out the code again and get cracking. :-)

        ~ Ross

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