On Aug 30, 2006, at 10:46 AM, Hill, Greg wrote:

You invoke the rite of Mac Evangelist of your own choice?  So let it
be
written, so let it be done.

I don't really care for OS:X because it hides all the tasty stuff away
so I have to google to figure out how to do anything significant.

You and Apple must have a different definition of "tasty" and "significant". I would be mildly interested to know what you had to Google for in order to figure it out.

  But,
that part doesn't really bug me so much.  Allow me to elucidate what I
find so funny about Mac bigots.

It is quite funny that merely by calling someone a "Mac bigot", you label yourself as a "anti-Mac bigot". So, I will play along and point out that what I find so funny about "anti-Mac bigots" is that their dislike is (as Wade pointed out) founded on the actions and attitudes of the "Mac bigots". It is actually quite similar to the debates between Windows and Linux users, in which many Windows users hate Linux and Linux users because the Linux users hate Windows.

<snip psuedo-conversations with un-named "Mac Bigot">

So, yeah, Macs may be great and all, but the attitude of their sheep
fans is kind of off-putting.

See point above. I would also like to know of a following that does not have "sheep". They all have their "sheep", and many become sheep just by putting themselves under the umbrella of Linux, Mac, Windows, Republicans, Democrats, etc, etc, etc.

I'll stick to paying way less for way
more.

Ah yes, the classic "Macs are more expensive" argument. Don't look now, folks, but Mac laptops are actually cheaper than Dell or IBM (Lenovo), at least for now. My father-in-law is pretty anti-Mac, and he just bought my sister-in-law a MacBook for school. It was quite interesting to go over all the laptop choices he was considering. At the time, the cheapest dual-core Dell that matched the MacBook specs was about $100 more than the MacBook, and a re-furbished IBM that matched the MacBook specs was $200 more. It did have a fingerprint reader, but I could care less about that. If you want biometric stuff on your laptop, then maybe the $200 price gap is worth it.

It may not stay this way, as Dell is very much about driving volume and so may drop their prices or offer more "special deals" to make Dells the same price or cheaper, but as of 2 weeks ago, that is where things stood.

  And anyone who complains about Microsoft's monopolistic tactics
should take a close look at how Apple does business. They'd be just as bad if they had that market share. They already ripped off Konfabulator
and put several of their developers out of business by integrating any
good idea that any Mac developer came up with into the OS or bundled
software.

Please stop with the Konfabulator crap. This is old news and has been re-hashed many times. Do you really think that they were the first ones to come up with the idea of running mini-programs on the desktop? (that was a rhetorical question, as they are not the first ones). Apple had something similar clear back in the 80's, and similar ideas have existed for a long time in other operating systems as well. There are truly very few completely original ideas around today. Most things have been around in one form or another, people just improve them and tout them as new. An interesting read the whole Konfabulator topic:

http://daringfireball.net/2004/06/dashboard_vs_konfabulator


BTW, don't feel too bad for Konfabulator. Yahoo! purchased them for a hefty sum to become Yahoo! Widgets. They aren't eating at a soup kitchen, and neither are the other "developers" that Apple has supposedly put out of business.

  I think they're going after Virtualization next.  I hope that
new startup realizes that their days are numbered.

Even if Apple did Virtualization (which they have NOT announced), it would not immediately spell doom for Parallels (which is not a Mac- only startup, they already had virtualization products for Windows before the switch to Intel was announced). Witness that VMWare, Xen, and Virtual PC all exist in pretty much the same space.

My personal take is that Apple won't bother to do it. I believe they did Boot Camp to prevent people from making coasters of their new macs (as the original process was quite error-prone and could easily render your new Mac unusable) but why would Apple want to make it super-easy (as in, no reboot required) to run other operating systems? Their view is that OS X is the best operating system for the Mac, and people should use that. If other people disagree, let them write the virtualization stuff. I am not privy to any inside information, but that is the way I have viewed the virtualization space on Intel Macs. They didn't write their own x86 emulation software while on PowerPC, and I don't see them changing direction on that now. But who said companies only do logical things?

Grant




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