> Hmm, seems like I could say something very similar. look, i didn't get personal and i didn't drop innuendoes about former employees -- i just posted a job.
i'm taking this offlist. cheers all, -josh > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Stuart Jansen > Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 4:34 PM > To: Provo Linux Users Group Mailing List > Subject: RE: perhaps a little too much honesty (was: RE: Job > Posting(.04KReward!) Jr. Linux Admin + Windows Support) > > On Sat, 2006-09-09 at 13:09 -0600, Josh Coates wrote: > > stuart - this seems awfully inappropriate of you to bring up in a > > public forum. but since you have, i feel obligated to set > the record > > straight - we've had two employees that 'left quickly' because they > > were asked to leave. however, both of them are good people > that i wish well. > > I don't feel that what I said should be taken as offensive. > Perhaps I should have spelled it out for you more clearly. > People we know have worked for you. They don't anymore. They > haven't said anything bad about BDS/Mozy, but their short > term with your company does leave the rest of us wondering > what happened. > > If you don't want a complete and honest attempt to help you > wonder why Plug isn't supplying references, don't bring it up > on a public discussion list. > > Rather than taking offense, If I were you I would have > pointed out the number of people who love working with you and why. > > Frankly, insinuating that they only reason anyone would leave > is that they were "asked to" is more rude in my opinion. A > simple "their interests and our needs didn't intersect well" > would have been better. > I'm pretty sure at least one "chose to leave" rather than > being "asked to leave". > > > > When you first arrived in the area, you earned a lot of > respect and > > > good will. Since then, I think you've lost some of it. I have no > > > idea what you can do about this. > > > > thank you for your concern about my personal reputation, > but i'm not > > sure where you come off making these sorts of assessments, > and again, > > i don't why you think it's okay to post things like this in > response to a job posting. > > Because you have tried to make yourself part of the community > instead of being another nameless, faceless employer. Again, > if you don't want to discuss it, don't bring it up. Instead > of taking offense, you could have taken it as a sign of > respect that I was willing to be honest and open. > I appreciate what you've tried to do for the Utah tech > community. I want BDS/Mozy to succeed. However, if you want > to feel like you're being pushed out of the community, be my guest. > > > i've always tried to helpful and honest - but, yes, this > often results > > in me offending people, and this will likely continue. i apologize > > when it's appropriate, and don't when it's not. > > Hmm, seems like I could say something very similar. > > -- > Stuart Jansen e-mail/jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > google talk: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > "However beautiful the strategy, you should occasionally look > at the results." -- Winston Churchill > /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
