On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 at 08:38 -0600, Stuart Jansen wrote: > Josh is that rare combination, a technically skilled person who also has > excellent business knowledge. He is happy to help others by sharing his > knowledge. Since he arrived in Utah, he has worked not only to build a > successful company but also to improve the situation of local IT > employees while enriching the environment for employers. > > For that I owe him my thanks. > > I do not know what it is like to work for Berkly Data Systems, I can > only guess based on the culture Josh would probably encourage. Josh has > the ability to recognize and attract skilled people. It is always > enjoyable to work with competent co-workers. I have heard from several > sources that he "treats engineers like they are valuable, rather than a > commodity." He was doing so before the hiring market became tight. > Unfortunately, that is not as common as it should be. Josh should be > commended.
I know both of these clowns and I do not hesitate to say that I would jump at any chance to work with or for either of them. Our ducks haven't lined up that way, although I did get to take a class or two with Stuart. I once entertained the idea of applying at BDS even though it didn't fit in with my life plans (go to grad school in a different state), just because I believe I would enjoy working with Josh. If you go only by the archives of this list, you might find that incredulous (or you might not), because I have openly disagreed with both Stuart and Josh on more than one occasion, if memory serves me. Stuart and I have even had some amazing rows on IRC, about silly things like Red Hat and Debian. But we really are thick-skinned friends, who respect that the other has a different viewpoint and is willing to share it and intellectually challenge eachother, without taking offense or being mean-spirited. It may be a social shortcoming, but I prefer the thick-skinned opinionated blunt and honest friends and have little patience for people that I would have to coddle to remain friends with. I am happy to say I have many such friends on this list who remain my friends even after I removed the list reply-to header a few times, and I count myself lucky to know them. -- Hans Fugal ; http://hans.fugal.net There's nothing remarkable about it. All one has to do is hit the right keys at the right time and the instrument plays itself. -- Johann Sebastian Bach
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