On 11/16/06, Michael L Torrie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Unfortunately 90% of the world is only running the ancient MS version of the JRE embedded in IE. Getting Java 7 out to the world will be harder as it will require a download of the JRE. Of course with IE 7 and Vista, there is no default JVM, so I guess you'd have to get users to download and install the plugin anyway. I guess the thing about flash
Anyone who has run Windows Update since 2003-ish would not have the MS JVM. Sun won the lawsuit and Sun ordered that MS remove their abomination of a JVM from all Windows computers. So, most folks don't have the MS JVM. This is a "good thing" though, because when you hit a page that needs the JVM, you'll be prompted to download the plug that supports applets (in this case, Sun's JVM). So, I don't know the numbers, but I think that most people will have the Sun JVM or no JVM.
is that it's a very simple, one-click install that's not very big, compared to Java with is around 10 MB I think. That will make a difference as to whether users will want to wait out a plugin download just to view something on a site. Studies recently showed that if a page takes more than 4 seconds to display, users lose interest and move on.
Ya, this is a huge down side. Everyone has Flash, and if they don't, then they'll accept the small download. Java is a big download, if it isn't already on their system. Someone would really have to want to use your applet to put up with the download time. Java 7 will have something called Java WE (web edition -- the name may change). Java WE is a subset of Java SE just for applet type use. The download size will be 3 ~ 5MB -- smaller than Flash anyway. Any applet that you vist that uses core java libraries that aren't included with Java WE will be downloaded and cached on-demand. Hopefully this smaller JRE will make the Java download more palatable. -Bryan /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
