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> From: "Corey Edwards" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> And the same thing will happen when DSL providers switch to the next up
> and coming star, ADSL2+. The Intarweb suggests that Qwest hasn't begun
> rolling it out yet. Probably too cheap to spring for the new DSLAMs. Or
> maybe too busy warrantlessly wiretapping? Ah heck, it's probably both.
> 

Let me start this rat with one lesson we are need to learn.  Get you facts 
straight.  That is get the right, please don't say bad things about companies 
that aren't true.  As to why Qwest isn't upgrading yet I don't know why they 
are going so slow, but it means I don't have to get another DSL router for a 
while.  It could be because the company has been unionized years ago might have 
something to do with

Um Qwest is one of the few phone companies that told them to take a hike when 
they wanted to install the illegal wiretapping device.  Both my Dad & my oldest 
brother work for them.  Qwest is proud they made the right decision on that 
one.  So pay attention to details it was the deathstar (AKA AT&T & several 
other cohorts that went along with the NSA wiretaps)

Since I know some of you don't 100% trust wikipedia which I can understand, 
I'll post this article first that states that Qwest had nothing to do with the 
illegal wiretaps.  The end of the article talks specifically about Qwest doing 
the right thing & telling the NSA no after looking at if for several years.  
Granted I think it should have been a not a chance on first hearing they were 
not using warrants which are required by federal law instead of dawdling on the 
matter, but they still made the right choice in the end.  It also means that 
the EFF won't be suing them as they are AT&T at least for their stupidity in 
participating in the illegal wiretaps.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm 

This was taken from the Qwest wikipedia article at the following URL.  

NSA spying

In May 2006, USA Today reported that millions of telephone calling records had 
been handed over to the United States National Security Agency by AT&T Corp., 
Verizon, and BellSouth since September 11, 2001. This data has been used to 
create a database of all international and domestic calls. Qwest was allegedly 
the lone holdout, despite threats from the NSA that their refusal to cooperate 
may jeopardize future government contracts [4], a decision which has earned 
them praise from those who oppose the NSA program [5].

A federal judge on August 17, 2006 ruled that the government's domestic 
eavesdropping program is unconstitutional and ordered it ended immediately. The 
Bush Administration has filed an appeal in the case which has yet to be heard 
in court. [6]

Former Qwest CEO Joseph Nacchio, who was convicted of insider trading in April 
2007, alleged in appeal documents that the NSA requested that Qwest participate 
in its wiretapping program more than six months before September 11, 2001. 
Nacchio recalls the meeting as occurring on February 27, 2001. Nacchio further 
claims that the NSA cancelled a lucrative contract with Qwest as a result of 
Qwest's refusal to participate in the wiretapping program[7].

[4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwest#_note-3
[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwest#_note-4
[6] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwest#_note-5
[7] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qwest#_note-6

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