A very good thread, many thanks to everyone!

This may be of interest to people looking for solutions. An episode of Frontline comparing 6 capitalist countries and their health-care systems. You can watch the full video online:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/sickaroundtheworld/

Mister E wrote:
So first you're wrong, then I'm wrong. Sounds like a never ending cycle of wrongness. But the last point sounds like darwinism to me... a misused theology.

It was tempting bait, but I really don't want to delve into a discussion of Evolution, even though it may be the quickest route to Godwin's law being invoked on this thread. :)

but health care and education are NOT a basic right.

They are in the society I want to live in. Granted, it will be tricky to reconcile both entities with our idea of liberty, but if any nation can do it we can.

principles that I base my comments on are set forth in the Constitution, not in modern day interpretation as a some living document subject to the whims of mankind nor the good intentions of over zealous people to be considered advanced or progressive thinkers.

Why did the founders give us the power to change the constitution then? I think this is one of the document's most important features.

Nathan Gilbert

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