On 11/16/2010 12:27 PM, Von Fugal wrote: > <quote name="Stuart Jansen" date="Tue, 16 Nov 2010 at 12:11 -0700"> >> On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 12:00 -0700, Von Fugal wrote: >>> What the hell is this supposed to mean? Water IS flouridated by the >>> government. The government IS trying to impose a smart grid. Therefore, >>> because alpheus brings up certain facts about smart grid, he is also >>> nutty about flouridation, and ALSO, he somehow thinks that flouride is >>> in everything else besides just water. I really don't follow your logic, >>> and your ad-hominem/straw-man mixture smells to high heaven. >> Now why don't you just take it easy, Group Captain, and please make me a >> drink of grain alcohol and rainwater, and help yourself to whatever >> you'd like. > I am sorry to have missed the movie reference. But your implication > still stands, that he is a nut, tantamount to the nut in the movie. I > will not sit silently while someone is degraded and attacked as being a > conspiracy nut, just because he disagrees with your socialist > ideologies. > > > > /* > PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net > Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug > Don't fear the penguin. > */
I think the fact that government exists is tantamount to accepting socialism. Government intrinsically takes from one group and gives to another for the benefit of the masses. You can't have police fire departments or hospitals that take care of the poor with out some socialist agenda. The question you should be asking is not if socialism/capitalism is right or wrong but if you value peace or freedom more. If you value freedom then you accept right makes right, if you value peace more then you must accept taxing the rich and giving to the poor. At the end of the day though wisdom dictates balance and bending with the currents of life to maximize freedom to the degree that individuals are willing to behave peaceably. /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
