On 18 Nov 2011, at 09:35, Nathan Blackham wrote:

> Disclosure:  I work for AWS.
> Also pardon the top post, I haven't seen a phone that can properly trim and 
> bottom post.
> 
> The biggest thing with moving to the "cloud" is that to fully utilize it's 
> potential, it requires a different mindset.  Take a look at the netflix blog 
> for tons of information on things they have had to change in the way that 
> things work.  By setting up an application a little differently, you can take 
> advantage of things like autoscaling.  Especially if you consider each 
> machine as disposable and plan for the case when it will fail.  The most 
> successful businesses in the cloud could not run the same way in a 
> traditional datacenter due to the cost difference.   
> 

This thread has been sitting in my inbox waiting for me to have time to read 
it.  I saved it specifically because I am in this boat.  I appreciate all who 
have contributed on both sides.

I would like to suggest that I think this would be an amazing topic for a PLUG 
meeting, or even a series of meetings.

I am currently working on a (potentially very large) application project which 
is currently being hosted in "the cloud" for sake of cost, with the intention 
that in the possibly near future we would look to a more traditional datacenter 
solution.  However, the concept of using a different mindset to make the cloud 
actually be the more viable solution intrigues me.  I have heard reports of 
resource latency affecting large applications which make the cloud a 
potentially bad place to be.  But if there are in fact ways to mitigate 
limitations that may simply be caused by using traditional mindsets, I want to 
know more.

Thoughts?

Jonathan

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