On 7/17/2012 11:10 PM, Alan Evans wrote: > On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 1:04 AM, S. Dale Morrey<[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just an fyi wages here in Utah are competitive with those of 3rd world >> countries, but working conditions are slightly better. > Haha, I love it and noted... :) > I highly disagree with this sentiment as expressed, and think you should note the following clarification:
There are a decent sized set of companies in Utah that believe that tech people should work for peanuts. They find people who will work for peanuts (who are often subpar, but not always), and this mistakenly reinforces their idea. Talented people who believe in themselves and don't sell themselves short can find companies willing to pay much higher wages for that talent. This differing opinion stuff happens much more often in smaller companies and startups in the area. As an example, I once interviewed with a company here in Orem for a position that involved managing their servers and working on a PHP application for their Asterisk box. If this wasn't enough expertise, they also wanted someone who could maintain and extend their ASP.NET/C# web application. I noted to them that these are competing expertise pools, and that while I could work in both, I was not an "expert" as they were constantly using the term. For this position, they immediately offered to pay $35,000 a year. This was a ridiculous wage for my experience level and the position they were offering, and I told them as such, and wished them luck. Last I heard, they had gone through 3 people that didn't work out within 5 months. I have a lot more stories like this. Needless to say, I also have stories of companies willing to pay very well for the industry to attract actual talent to do interesting things, including most of my jobs here in Utah. You just need to be prepared to hold to your guns and not sell yourself short. Cheers, -Tod Hansmann /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
