*On March 28, 2013, [email protected] wrote:* * *
*> Anyway, systemd has nothing to do with making life easier for new users. It aims to make life better for sysadmins, > though admittedly not the ones who are set in their ways and can't be bothered to learn new things. It's a little more* *> opaque than a script-based init system, but not much more once you are familiar with it. In return, it offers speed, * *> security, and resource usage improvements over other init systems.* * * *Interesting idea. Anyone happen to know if Gentoo is rolling over to this? Once I get to the point where I can rebuild that ailing home server I mentioned before I'd prefer Gentoo. However I'm very familiar with the old init script system and if Gentoo is using (or will use) systemd then perhaps I best spend some time boning up on it first. :)* * * *--- Dan* On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Levi Pearson <[email protected]> wrote: > On Mar 27, 2013, at 9:49 PM, Michael Torrie <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > The only problem with these decisions made by someone else is that many > > of these changes are made to make life easier for the mythical new user > > that Fedora developers and Gnome developers seem to be catering to, > > which really doesn't exist. The problem is their user base aren't the > > grandmas, mas, and pops of the world. It's us, the enthusiasts. This > > blind spot is especially present in Gnome 3 developers sadly. > > Keep your definition of "enthusiast" to yourself. :) As a software > enthusiast, I welcome bold new directions like Gnome 3, Unity, Wayland, > whatever that thing Canonical has decided to use instead of Wayland, etc. > Sometimes they don't pan out, but Linux userspace is riding on seriously > old, crufty foundations. Fresh ideas keep it relevant and interesting. > > Anyway, systemd has nothing to do with making life easier for new users. > It aims to make life better for sysadmins, though admittedly not the ones > who are set in their ways and can't be bothered to learn new things. It's a > little more opaque than a script-based init system, but not much more once > you are familiar with it. In return, it offers speed, security, and > resource usage improvements over other init systems. > > I haven't used it in Fedora, just with an Arch install I was playing with, > so I don't have anything to say to your criticisms of it. I was never a > huge fan, being a long-time user of Debian-based distros, but every distro > has a few weak releases (or transitional periods, for rolling-release > distros). > > --Levi > > /* > PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net > Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug > Don't fear the penguin. > */ > /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
