I would actually lump S3 and Glacier under SaaS. Its a service thats provided for you with software on the backend to manage it all. All S3 and Glacier really are is a set of up API(s) you can use to access the service.
On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 11:14 AM, S. Dale Morrey <[email protected]>wrote: > Don't forget Storage as a Service, S3 & Glacier for example. That doesn't > really fall under your categories as far as I can tell. > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:08 AM, Grant Shipley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Let's clear up what cloud actually means then. There are three types of > > cloud computing: > > > > IaaS - Infrastructure as a service > > > > Think Amazon EC2, Google Compute Engine here. The only thing provided to > > the user is the hardware / vm. The user is responsible for providing the > > operating system, updating it, apply security errata, installing and > > managing all applications, tuning the OS - databases - application > servers > > etc. It addresses a real concern in the industry by reducing the time to > > market for getting servers quickly. With IaaS, you can spin up 1000 > > machines in a matter of minutes and grow as demand quires it. The only > > problem, no one knows what their final bill will be every month. > > > > You have to bring your sys admins, application code, and users along with > > you. > > > > PaaS - Platform as a service > > > > The OpenShift, Heroku, CloudFoundry here. PaaS sits on top of IaaS to > > automate even more of the environment. Typically the PaaS will manage > all > > aspects of the environment for you. This includes database tuning, > > automatic scaling, application server management, security updates to OS > > and runtimes, etc. Users of PaaS need to deploy and be responsible for > the > > application code that is deployed on the environment to ensure it is > > robust, scalable, and cloud friendly. > > > > You have to bring your application code and users along with you. > > > > SaaS - Software as a Service > > > > Think salesforce.com, facebook, gmail, dropbox here. Software as a > > service > > is a WYSIWG environment. The platform manages everything for you and > often > > times you can't customize the application code. This is the cloud > > technology that has been around the longest and widely adopted. > > > > You have to bring your users and your data to the table here. > > > > > > The adoption rate among these three cloud technologies are as follows: > > SaaS - Huge adoption. This was a buzz word 8 years ago and we really > don't > > hear much about it anymore because its widely accepted and in use by 99% > of > > all corporations today. > > > > IaaS - medium adoption. People still have concerns about moving their > > workloads to a public cloud provider (ec2) but a lot of people are making > > this move. When I talk about cloud computing to companies, one of the > > first things I hear is -- we can't put our users email address and data > in > > a public cloud. Our data is so important we need a 5 million dollar > oracle > > RAC server behind 15 firewalls. I think ask them what they use for sales > > automation tools. They proudly respond with Salesforce.com. Face -> > Palm. > > People don't realize that they are storing much more than users data in > > the public cloud today. With SF.com they are storing all of their > > financials and forecasts. Having access to someone sf.com environment > is > > more damning that having access to their internal oracle db. > > > > PaaS - low adoption. This is the new kid on the block. I fully expect > > this to be mainstream and every developer will be using a PaaS in 3-5 > years > > as they see the benefits for development. The tidal wave is coming. > It's > > best for us developers to go ahead and get familiar with it because it is > > coming! > > > > Now, just to be clear. You will hear a lot of other crap about cloud > > computing. IMO ignore it. People and companies will tout things such as > > mBaaS (Mobile backend as a service) MWaaS (Middle Ware as a Service) etc. > > All of these new buzz word terms can be recognized in one of three main > > categories (IaaS, PaaS, SaaS). I don't know why people are clinging to > and > > making up new as a services acronyms. It just further confuses everyone > > knew to cloud computing and is hindering the adoption of this fantastic > > technology. > > > > -- > > gs > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 10:29 AM, Jason Klebs <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > In my opinion, 'the cloud' is a buzz-word, and regarding it, people act > > > accordingly. Buzz-words are meant to diminish understanding of > > > something, not enhance it. Therefore, a lot of places don't weigh the > > > benefits and drawbacks of what is essentially a move to another hosting > > > provider. > > > > > > While we're opening up cans of worms... > > > I have assumed (even pre-Snowden) that every EC2 instance comes with > > > root access for the NSA built-in. Thoughts on this? > > > > > > -Jason > > > > > > On 12/12/2013 10:21 AM, Jonathan Duncan wrote: > > > > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 8:03 AM, S. Dale Morrey < > [email protected] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > >> For the most part, you can't just migrate existing systems to "the > > > >> cloud(tm)". You really do need to think of it as a > re-implementation > > > task > > > >> and expect your costs to follow accordingly. > > > >> > > > >> Agreed. The Cloud is just another tool. Like any tool, if used > > properly > > > > can be helpful, if used improperly can be deadly. The company I am > > > > currently with is in the process of migrating all services to the > > cloud. > > > > This includes an entire rewrite of the code base and entirely new > > system > > > > architecture. It is a mistake to think of the Cloud in the same way > as > > > one > > > > would think of traditional physical servers. For me, learning to use > > the > > > > Cloud effectively has required me to adopt a new paradigm. > > > > > > > > /* > > > > PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net > > > > Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug > > > > Don't fear the penguin. > > > > */ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > /* > > > PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net > > > Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug > > > Don't fear the penguin. > > > */ > > > > > > > /* > > PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net > > Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug > > Don't fear the penguin. > > */ > > > > /* > PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net > Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug > Don't fear the penguin. > */ > /* PLUG: http://plug.org, #utah on irc.freenode.net Unsubscribe: http://plug.org/mailman/options/plug Don't fear the penguin. */
