On Tuesday, May 27, 2014, Steve Meyers wrote:

> PDO

> has support for named parameters, however, which is definitely a plus.



Great, what's PDO? Realize that I've not used any web language since HTML4
and PHP4. So now that both are in version 5 I'm catching up from far
behind. Got a good URL to describe how to use PDO in PHP, as well as what
the heck PDO is?



Of course I wouldn't be using mysqli_* functions because of the fact that
the back-end database isn't mysql. But the point is well made. :)



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On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 4:16 PM, Levi Pearson <[email protected]> wrote:

> Warning:  Rant below.  Stop now if bluntness would offend you.
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:27 AM, Dan Egli <[email protected]> wrote:
> > PHP - best way?
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, May 27, 2014, Doran Barton wrote:
> >
> >> Don't use PHP. ;-)
> >
> >
> >
> > Very funny. I actually don't appreciate digs like that. PHP may not be
> the
> > best language out there, but it's a good one just the same. And it's one
> > that was easy for me to learn! I tried looking into Java once. I was lost
> > after twenty minutes. Maybe someday I'll look at it again, but as it
> > stands, PHP is the best out there for me. I could do this site in Python
> I
> > suppose, but that's about the only other language I'd use. Don't even get
> > me started on Ruby. I know some people love it, but every time I looked
> at
> > it I just wanted to scream "IT'S UGLY! IT MAKS NO SENSE TO ME!" I'll take
> > PHP over Ruby in a microsecond!
>
> Alas, if only "easy to learn" always went along with "good".  If only
> 20 minutes were long enough to learn a programming language.  If only
> it were possible to make informed decisions about what's best without
> actually becoming informed first.
>
> Please don't write programs.  Just don't.  People who can't be
> bothered to learn how to do things shouldn't even try.
>
> > Besides, I don't know Python or anything else, and can't get any books on
> > them to learn them. So it's PHP or a Bash script. Take your pick. Of the
> > two, I think PHP is the far better choice. :) Now if you have a web site
> > that will take you through the process of building a site in Python (as
> > well as other things, since Python happens to be a very popular scripting
> > language even at the command line) then I'll happily take a look at it.
> But
> > for the moment, this site design is PHP. I've already put in many hours
> of
> > work getting it to where it is now. It's perfectly functional, and does
> > exactly what I want it to do. But it's not hardened against attacks.
> Hense
> > the original post of my thread. I'm looking for sites that give good
> > details on properly sanitizing a site against attacks, and has things
> that
> > can be directly used in PHP. It's all well and good to say "Do this, and
> do
> > that" but considering that I've not used PHP (or HTML for that matter)
> > since version 4 (of each), I'm not likely to understand HOW to do this
> and
> > not that unless it's illustrated on the page. I am most definetly behind
> > the curve.
>
> "Man, I put a whole few hours into working on a project.  I can't be
> bothered to learn any more about my tools by myself and I am stuck, so
> I am going to ask people to spoon feed me what I need to know, because
> the explanations so far just went over my head."
>
> Clearly you have access to the internet.  You can get to web pages.  I
> have personally seen evidence that there's all sorts of tutorial
> information on topics from programming languages to explicit
> instructions on the "right things" to do in PHP.  People in this
> thread have even provided links!  And Google will happily provide
> billions more!
>
> If you don't want to learn this stuff, you don't have to.  No one is
> forcing you to learn anything.  But if you're not going to learn
> anything, what in the world makes you think that you ought to be able
> to apply the knowledge you don't have to build software?  Just give up
> and find a hobby you're actually interested in learning about.  You'll
> be happier and annoy fewer people with inane requests for
> spoon-feeding and uninformed opinions.
>
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